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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

This is probably payback for letting them off the hook on the monopoly suits. Expect more "payback" as they manipulate the narrative.

[–] DERRALEXANO@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same for searching: “did Elon Musk make a nazi salute?” Only got a response when I replaced “nazi salute” with “offensive gesture”. Ok google

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fuck me. i don't know why people still use google search; it was shit even before all this. jumped ship years ago.

[–] viking 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What are you using now? I've been toying with kagi for a while, but the idea of having to use an account that ties all my searches to me doesn't sit well with my sense of privacy, and none of the others get results remotely close to google.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

i disagree. Google's results went to shit for me years ago. the first page was literally just ads, sponsored links that had nothing to do with my search or looked like what i was looking for but were phishing/malware sites, regular results that were less about what i searched and more about what google found more appropriate for me.

i started to use duckduckgo despite its incredibly stupid name and it's just like old times for me. except now it has AI assist which you can turn off or set how often you want to see it.

two things that helped sell me DDG was bangs and DDG browser. i got used to using DDG browser as default on mobile except for things i wanted to have persistent sessions on, which are very rare it turns out. bangs also help you directly search specific sites or even google in the unlikely event i would want to try to search that monstrosity instead. if you search for something and you don't find what you want and want to try Google instead, just add !g to the search and it directs you to Google search instead. !gi for Google images.

there are tons of other bangs, like !w for Wikipedia and !imdb for... you'll never guess but i use it sometimes.

[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I use duck duck go

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Kagi,brave, startpage, ddg, are good to go. Trump def has dementia

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] vpklotar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've been a Kagi user for over a year and I usually hate AI summaries. Though I must say I love how Kagi has implemented them as it gives sources where it found the info so you can dig deeper and see if what it said was actually correct.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Their AI is pretty good, both assistant and search summaries. Been using it extensively as it actually provides correct and objective information (at least more often than others). It is also privacy-first, so you don't get those annoying personality shifts as with like GPT.

[–] droans@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kagi's summaries are great.

They're hidden by default, requiring you to click the button first. They don't extrapolate too much. And their sources will be the exact same links you got from the search.

[–] vpklotar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I just put a question mark at the end and it does it automatically. Works like a charm.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use mojeek, and startpage sometimes. Ddg is too influenced now, they do the same stuff Google does. Brave is run by people who hate LGBT people so I can't support them in good conscience.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
The post is likely referring to a long-standing controversy around Brendan Eich, the founder and CEO of Brave (the browser and search engine company). In 2008, Eich donated $1,000 to support California's Proposition 8, a ballot measure that banned same-sex marriage (later overturned by courts). This came to light in 2014 when he was briefly appointed CEO of Mozilla, leading to widespread backlash from employees, users, and activists who viewed it as anti-LGBTQ+. Eich resigned from Mozilla after just 11 days amid the outcry, expressing regret for causing pain but not fully recanting his views.

Some people, including in the LGBTQ+ community and allies, continue to avoid or criticize Brave on these grounds, seeing it as support for leadership with historically discriminatory stances. This isn't a "new" issue in 2025—it's tied to events from over a decade ago—but it persists in discussions about ethical tech choices. Brave has faced other unrelated controversies (e.g., ad practices), but this one specifically relates to anti-LGBT perceptions.

For more details:
- [Wikipedia on Brendan Eich](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich)
- [Article on the Mozilla controversy](https://www.osnews.com/story/27646/the-new-mozilla-ceos-political-past-is-imperiling-his-present/)
- [Recent discussion on Brave controversies](https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/)
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43300333

well fuck! brave is the one browser that fits all my needs.

[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Google is evil.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Many are saying it's the worst dementia they have seen. The best people in fact.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

The most tremendous dementia they have seen. The greatest people have looked at me and said it's the biggest, greatest case they have seen. The biggest of all time.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

This is so succinctly Trump. 😂 Bravo! Really captures the essence in one and a half sentences.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 103 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Aaaand this is how we know he has dementia.

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Like Duterte and his impairment caused by fentanyl, he is but a puppet for a bunch of murderous cunts who keep him propped up if only to have him sign their policies favoring them for profit.

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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 164 points 3 days ago

Trump has dementia confirmed

[–] ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's a good google alternative?

[–] Guilvareux@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

Duckduckgo Ecosia Startpage Brave search

[–] vpklotar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

If you don't mind paying a little I have found that Kagi is the best. Sure, the others mentions are free but subpar, even to google. Kagi is simply better but with the downside of a monthly subscription. I love that they are quite transparent with changelogs and stuff when the make changes.

[–] droans@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

Kagi.

The downside is that it costs $10 per month.

The upside is:

  • Privacy first
  • You can pin websites to the top of results, promote them so they appear higher, demote them so they appear lower, or have them completely removed
  • Lenses - quickly tell Kagi what type of results you want (News sources, academic articles, forum posts, programming sites, small web, etc.)
  • Snaps - search shortcuts kinda like bangs. Eg, typing @w is the same as typing site:wikipedia.com
  • An actual good AI summary. Completely unobtrusive - only activated when you press the button, doesn't overextrapolate your request, and will only source the same results that you get from the search
  • Direct image results

When I first migrated a couple years ago, it was a bit worse than Google but pretty close. Nowadays, I find it to be much much better. It's honestly close to how Google was back in 2015 before they made it garbage.

[–] leastaction@lemmy.ca 81 points 3 days ago

Duckduckgo, on the other hand ...

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Google AI has dementia

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 days ago

Can I get unavailable AI overviews for all my searches? Then Google has a chance to be usable again

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 91 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Forget the spokesperson, just ask Google AI directly:

AI on Google Search, including the AI Overviews in search, does not provide summaries on topics involving Donald Trump and dementia. This is due to risk aversion, sensitivity to political topics, and recent legal challenges. Instead, these searches return a list of traditional web links.

Reasons for the lack of response

  • Risk of misinformation: AI-generated conclusions about a public figure's health could spread misinformation. The mental acuity of Donald Trump and President Joe Biden, the oldest presidents in U.S. history, is a topic of public discussion.
  • Avoiding political sensitivity: AI models often have restrictions on sensitive or controversial topics to avoid biased responses. Google and other tech companies are cautious about how their AI products respond to election-related or partisan queries.
  • Legal history with Trump: Google's handling of Trump-related content may be influenced by recent legal and political issues. In 2025, Google paid a $24.5 million settlement in a lawsuit related to the suspension of Trump's YouTube account.
  • Inconsistent application of AI summaries: Some users report that searches about other politicians, like Barack Obama or Joe Biden, may return an AI-generated response, though this varies. This inconsistency has led to criticism that the AI applies selective censorship.

Google's statement A Google spokesperson stated that AI Overview and AI Mode do not always show answers to all queries, especially sensitive or complex ones. The company suggests that users rely on traditional search results in such cases.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay, but why? LLMs always give a response, they’re trained to give a response regardless of accuracy. This entire wall of text could be completely made up.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So, essentially the same as a company spokesperson!

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wtf, confirmed. Ask about any person, any president on if they have dementia or not and it'll answer

Ask about trump and it refused to interact, just dumps a search results window with funnily enough the first result being a page about how Google is censoring this

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Surfacing the result of how they are censoring the results might be a canary in a coal mine, we can't say we're doing it but we can make the top result someone else saying we're doing it.

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[–] Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 3 days ago (3 children)

"what does dementia look like in 47th presidents"

Works good, search gets the wink and nudge.

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Ok, so don’t look for an AI response? Sure, Google censoring results is shit, google NOT censoring results about the same query about Biden is even shittier, but you still get search results about the question.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Dimensia Donny seems like a nickname that could fit

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