Would be very cool if it actually had basic functionality, like searching for items that are actually near me and not 3045390 miles way...
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By default Flohmarkt recommends to set a location and only federate with instances in a certain geographic distance. So if you only see far away ads, then you are either using the wrong instance or the instance is misconfigured.
I only see far away ads because there are no public instances on my continent, as far as I can tell.
😆be the change you wish for
Brb, setting up tons of instances for my area so it looks popular
So location is by instance and not by user?
That seems an odd (and kind of problematic) design...
Wait, you mean it actually won't let you set your location and search for local ads?
If someone is going to build a site for selling things, that's 'kind of' the most important part of the site. Having it be federated makes that a thousand times worse. Now I'm supposed to find other local federated services in my area?
That is so against how any of this works.
What mechanisms are there to limit bad actors?
I doubt there is any. With craiglist you did in person cash in a public setting. I only did exchanges in the police station parking lot and they had cameras for that purpose.
Starbucks always worked for me. plenty public and plenty of cameras
shockingly, every deal went off without a hitch.
I miss craigslist
The strict location specificity at least strongly limits the usefulness for spamming the network with commercial ads, but apparently people here in this comment thread think this is bad design 🙄
Otherwise, could you be more specific about what kind of bad actor you mean? Obviously you can't really prevent someone from posting fake ads for what ever nefarious purpose.
Come on.
but apparently people here in this comment thread think this is bad design 🙄
- Users ask questions about "How would this work?"
- You gave us answers that don't seem to work for any of our use cases
- Eyeroll emoji cause the user is wrong, apparently
And on top of it, you are becoming belligerent to users, insisting they don't know what they're talking about.
One thing I would find valuable is mechanisms to dissuade the listings with obviously false prices. So many things on CL that aren't really free or $1.
Solution “payments process through the system only at the price you posted. If this isn’t done, the ad pointing to you doesn’t come down and new ones don’t go up. You only get X number of posts simultaneously.”
But then we’ve have another app to juggle all the account created to circumvent this so fuck it.
How does location specificity limit spam? Surely the nature of spam is it costs nothing to produce and is done en masse.
And I mean any kind of bad actor really. Spammer, scammer, or even just a griefer deciding the gum up the system for lulz.
To be clear these are genuine questions, I’m not here to shit on the project or anything. I’d love more than anything for there to be good answers to them.
Finally... eBay went to shit years ago with scams and Craigslist is a shell of what it once was. Not to mention I cancelled Facebook years ago because … well because Fuck Zuck.
Craigslist is simple and still going strong.
not everything on craigslist is a scam at least. i got a very nice cargo trike through there for like $2000 less than it's worth
Actually, I don’t think I’ve ever even come close to being scammed on Craigslist… knock on wood.
Read "ad software" and was beyond terrified for a moment
Finally, selfhostable ads to deploy across your homelab services!
I'll just go ahead and put ads.mydomain.net into uBo. And... Done.
Ha, that will show them.. I mean you!
There is an instance of this in Denmark, that I have used a couple of times already. It is a nice alternative.
Hope they implement "range" soon, so you can tell how far away an item is.
welp guess I'll set up a Canadian instance for this today. I like it. good idea.
done. https://market.andmc.ca/
PLEASE NOTE FOR MY FELLOW CANUCKS: I'm just starting a test on it within the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) at like a 50km range. if it's fine after a couple days then i'll gradually expand it out. I DON'T have a lot of time to work on it today so It's very bare bones right now but it's up and seems to be working fine. have at it I suppose.
Second NOTE: I have no clue how to deal with a marketplace so as far as "rules" go i'm clueless so...don't be a dick.
so... Don't be a dick
That should be your first rule! 😁
Awesome, that is how it is done! Kudos to you 👍
I'll probably also make my location specific instance public once I got a nice landing page for the main domain as I want to add a few other services and not only Flohmarkt in the medium term.
Edit: AFAIK the 50km range actually only specifies what other Flohmarkt instances to federate with, i.e. if someone else sets up an instance with a location within 50km of the one you set for your instance then their posts will show up on the all feed of your instance, otherwise they will not. There is nothing really stopping people from posting things outside the 50km range right now, but that might be an interesting feature for the future as well.
Let us know your URL if you could. I was thinking of doing it myself, but if you have the spoons, all the better.