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    [–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 5 points 1 day ago

    I'm on arch so its the highlight of every morning 🀣

    [–] Michal@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Fedora does this too, it reboots to install updates...

    [–] Wilmo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    Gnome Software does this with offline upgrades. It's optional. Doing sudo dnf upgrade is the same as sudo apt update && upgrade. No reboot. Obviously you should reboot for kernels and certain hooks but otherwise yeah. You can disable gnome software automatic downloads etc

    [–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 235 points 3 days ago (25 children)

    The poster would be more convincing if you hadn't inverted apt-get update and apt-get upgrade...

    [–] SmoochyPit@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Maybe OP knew all along that they wanted to use the previous package list to upgrade and fetch the new one after! Maybe we’re all actually inverting it…

    (I’m just being silly, I recognize that an old package list would probably cause issues with installing or upgrading packages.)

    [–] groet@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

    (I’m just being silly, I recognize that an old package list would probably cause issues with installing or upgrading packages.)

    No problems anywhere you can always install older versions from a repo.

    Upgrade -> update two days ago and then again today will leave me with exactly the same packages as it would if I ran it correctly the first time and then not at all today. Just the state of two days ago.

    [–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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    [–] uzay 24 points 2 days ago

    I mean, it's definitely faster this way around

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    [–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    It's insanity. I had to upgrade my work laptop to windows 11 this week.

    IT didn't do their research and turns out our main software isn't compatible with windows 11 at all. So i had to downgrade back to windows 10. When i did, photos don't work and the microsoft store wont open.

    Windows is such a horrible system, i have no idea why they made it so poorly. I could have installed any distro of linux and had it working well in less than 20 minutes. Upgrading to windows 11 took almost 2 hours and it still didn't work.

    Now IT has to scramble to find a solution before the 14th and we lose all security updates, which they are very concerned about. What a nightmare to be in IT.

    [–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

    It’s always a nightmare being in IT lol

    Nobody ever calls to say, β€œHey! Just wanted to let you know that my email is working great, keep up the good work!”

    We only hear from people when shit is broken.

    Being in a windows shop only makes it 100x more difficult and expensive.

    [–] flemtone@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Dont you mean: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

    [–] denhafiz_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    Nope. I meant paru.

    [–] wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago

    Yea apt-get is so 2010

    [–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    Click Update and Shut Down

    Windows: Updates and restarts

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    Install Windows - does updates as part of the installation process. Get to desktop and check for updates - more updates to install. Reboot and check for updates again - yet more updates.

    [–] groet@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

    No it will update and once that is done it will shut down. But the update includes a restart so it will restart and then require you to type your password so it can finish the update, after which it will shut down.

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Ain't nobody got time for two commands. sudo apt upgrade --update

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 24 points 2 days ago (15 children)

    Are you serious? That's a thing? I've been doing apt update and apt upgrade for years

    [–] Wilmo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    It also has sudo apt autopurge which does autoremove --purge

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    [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

    [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

    Well, true, one of the slowest packaging systems in Linux world is still faster than Windows Update.

    [–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (7 children)
    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago

    It is done that way for better reliability. It is optional and not even needed with Silverblue.

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    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 59 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Who even uses apt-get these days?

    [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Yeah apt-get is so old it officially misses packages that apt... gets.

    [–] CoyoteFacts@piefed.ca 27 points 3 days ago (8 children)

    Whoa, do you have something to read up on that? I'd be extremely surprised, since apt-get is supposed to be the script-safe variant, i.e. I'd imagine it's the more stable of the two.

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    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    sudo nix-channel --update

    sudo nixos-rebuild switch

    [–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    nvim flake.nix

    sudo nixos-rebuild switch --flake .#flake

    [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    Be me -

    Gets the Ok from IT to switch to a Linux Distro for my work desktop.

    Gets the Ok from my direct manager.

    Gets the Ok from our contracts manager who used to be in my direct managers position before.

    Direct manager reaches out to lead developer, who happens to be a windows fanboy, for the web app we use to ensure β€œcompatibility”, gets told to be careful of what I do and our cybersecurity insurance won’t cover it.

    Be me, looking around at all the minuscule pieces of hardware connected to the internet likely running some form of Linux or Unix.

    [–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 43 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    It's a fucking web app. Make sure it works for a browser. You suck as a web developer if your shit web app needs to work on a specific OS.

    And those are fighting words because I build web apps.

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    [–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
    [–] jojowakaki@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    "I use arch ... btw", also btw

    For APT enjoyers, alias yay="sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade"

    Also, alias nay="yay -Rns"

    Or yeet if you prefer, for the yay/nay or yay/yeet pair.

    [–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Thank you for this, I love it. We use Ubuntu at work and I am quite tempted to covertly add yay as an alias.

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (10 children)

    Ain't nobody got time for apt-get. apt all the way.

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    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    This is so cursed.

    1. Wrong order
    2. Dont use apt-get in the terminal
    3. Reboot
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