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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I believe Waymo’s strategy has always been to shoot for level 5 autonomous driving and not bother with the others. Tesla not following that strategy has proven them correct. You either have a system that is safe, reliable, and fully autonomous, or you’ve got nothing. Not that Waymo has a system at this point that can work under all conditions, but their approach is definitely superior to Tesla’s if nothing else.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 13 hours ago

And a orange safer than a knive.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 15 points 1 day ago

They're mobile spyware belonging to an alphabet agency.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

But they didnt move fast at all. I saw people driving Waymo'a for years before I saw the first automated one hit the streets. They took their damn time which I am sure was expensive and worth it.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

lidar Deez nuts

gottem

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago

Safer than ChatGPT you say? Wow....

That isn't a high bar.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This article is a little light on thesis, but legit.

Personally, I'd like to tie a vision of autonomous vehicles to a broad rethinking of transit and public ownership. What if training data was shared, so instead of allowing Google to create another monopoly we deliberately cultivated a diverse market? What if we designed roads to accommodate autonomous van pools and also bikes and more light vehicles?

We can dream better than this.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I for one believe we're capable of building trains

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

autonomous van pools

We could even call them busses

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago

I love buses too, but a van pool is materially different. Buses travel fixed routes. A van pool can act as a shared taxi that shuttles people directly between points of immediate departure, transit stations, and final destinations.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Years ago, Microsoft was doing some R&D on autonomous vehicles in a mock city built for it. Instead of each vehicle doing all of the processing, the fake city was built with wireless markers to GIVE the car the information. Like instead of having to "see" a stop sign, the stop sign told cars it was there.

It would be complicated and expensive to implement on a mass scale but I thought it was a really cool idea.

[–] FatCrab@slrpnk.net 4 points 13 hours ago

Effectively, this has been an ongoing initiative across DoTs for a long while now. The issue is that it's a hodgepodge approach baked piecemeal into various grants and other programs. But, yeah, digital, vendor agnostic, secure transit infrastructure is always on a lot of DOT folks' minds.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That test sounds like a model trainroad but for billionaires.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Sure. But it's not like the technology they developed is useless outside of an autonomous city, I'm sure they went into it knowing it would never be implemented for real.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Move fast, break laws, escape repercussions.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They moved on to calling it "disrupting the market". I think the latest is "Revolutionize the way we do ...". Same thing really.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That probably is not so comforting when one of them is in control of half a ton of metal, plastic and glass in public.