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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 16 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Israel has their buddy America to back them up.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

More than a buddy... America is the reason they are capable of any of this. It's disgusting what the failed leadership here has allowed, and Trump has opened every single floodgate in his second term, empowering them like never before.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 55 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Just Crimes Against Humanity Things.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

There are no doubts.

The full on attempt to suppress the fact has failed.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 140 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

So they're torturing her. Israel is torturing her.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 64 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (4 children)

Israel has no way to win in this situation. Torturing her will result in media backlash. Executing her would only make a martyr, which is even worse. Somehow, Israel didn’t choose to kick her out immediately.

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 40 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Israel has no way to win in this situation.

They could have not taken her hostage.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 11 points 2 hours ago

But then more people might be willing to risk it and ride in aid. Israel definitely doesn't want that. (Not saying it's a good thing just the optics would cause them just as many problems)

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 4 points 1 hour ago

Too late for that. They screwed up.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 56 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

The worst thing Israel could have done to discredit Greta Thunberg and damage her brand would have been to give her a nice meal, a warm bed in a nice hotel, gently push her onboard the next 1st class flight back to Stockholm the next day and release a statement telling her to go play SJW somewhere else. Instead, they're doing everything possible to confirm they're truly bad people, like dumbasses.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 16 minutes ago

True.

And I think I have an explanation for that:

We do not often read how Israeli politicians talk, verbatim*. They got used responding only to their own media landscape, where apparently they can go much farther in their rhetoric (and subsequent actions) without repercussions. There's also some deep-seated misogyny specifically against women of other race/religion or however they define that for themselves. Like, they'd never do that if she was a typical NY Jew, for example.

Of course that isn't the whole picture; we must also look at the unquestioning support they've been getting from most "Western" countries which no doubt contributed to them developing this sort of impunity.

* Netanyahu often speaks English when addressing the world. It's still bad enough, but it allows him to present a different picture to the world than to his constituency.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 2 points 1 hour ago

Exactly! They picked one of the foolish routes instead.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 72 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They realize that kicking her out just means she will be on her way back on the next boat. They are trying to intimidate her into not coming back.

I hope the Swedish government has a harsh answer for one of their citizens getting kidnapped in International Waters.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

One they haven't given for genocide?

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 16 points 2 hours ago

Yes, because she is swedish

So out of character!

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 74 points 3 hours ago

Israel is a terrorist country.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 40 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Exactly the kind of thing Israel would do. Such a horrible nation, such horrible people.

Like that time they used an armored water cannon full of stinky shit... Or the time they cut the tail off a CIA agents pet dog.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 hour ago

Are we ready to believe victims now? Are we ready to act?

[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sooo is anyone gonna do anything here? I know USA would back up Israel here but, like, someone help?

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 hours ago

They will be treated kinda badly in order to encourage them to not get on the next set of boats coming down, then they will be released.

Some will rejoin the next flotilla will which will hopefully be a hundred boats or more and maybe some of the countries will provide naval cover to stop the drones from attacking them on the seas.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 hours ago
[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

At least they haven’t lost her.

[–] Trill88@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Sleep tight... And you know the rest!