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[–] tym@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

It's not a bubble, it's something way worse - "the reduction of the employee cost burden"

AI exists to allow wealth to access skill without allowing skill to access wealth.

Hyper-local renaissance is the only answer. Get to your village and out of the city while you still can.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The crash is going to be spectacular.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How will we crash if the White House controls the Fed? This is gonna be a different kind of financial catastrophe.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you can maintain make-believe "all good nothing to see here" for only so long until the reality becomes undeniable. given that cost of living crisis is already running roughshod through the economy - it's not a good sign and it will get worse.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s what I’m saying, it’s probably not going to be a crash, just the cost of living crisis on steroids. My moneys still on mass hunger riots next year

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even last year I would've said "hold ya horses, pardner" but these days I think you're onto something. The way big tech keeps on screwing everybody while other parts of the economy actively sink is concerning.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is the “planned economy” also known as a dreaded “communism”(1950-1989). We all know how it works. Some unqualified persons make choices on how to use the nations resources and all the sudden food and energy stop showing up.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

my country went through it - i don't remember energy shortages but the food shortages were real. That systemic mismanagement over decades with fudged performance figures up and down piled up so high it's a miracle things weren't worse. Took a solid decade just to clean this mess

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Many such cases!! It’s pretty well studied ant this point. We designed the world economy around food security for the last 80 years. It was a tragically flawed system and was slowly perverted, but the rapid destruction of these supply chains is certainly not going to end well for some.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

there is also an issue with the scope of the whole system. it is way too big and too tangled to function smoothly.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Double check your investments and be sure none of them are reliant on AI for future operative certainty.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Haha joke's on you, I can't afford to invest

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As someone that has been through both of these crashes, 17 times the size of the .com bubble is really, really bad. I don't think we can even conceive of how big a hole this is going to make.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

don't worry the military tech bubble will get it covered)

jokes aside - i'm working in consulting and lots of those AI startups are straight up money laundering operations that don't really need neither market research nor talent pool studies - pretty much everything is for show and next to zero real longterm planning. A rude awakening is long overdue for these hotshots.

One time I had a misfortune to ask what one of these startups is going to do when their product will fail to gain traction (it was yet another grammar check sentence finishing app like Grammarly) - how are they gonna pivot and their CEO laughed at me and said "we are going to work hard to make it a success" which is like super stupid thing to say when your project is in the superoversaturated market affected by cost of living crisis with customer engagement on a consistent decrease for the last 3 years and your product costs almost the same as the market leader but is also way worse.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ever since the 90's, I've often wondered if some of these bubble companies are just the living end of the "eat the rich" philosophy. I can see no more practical a way to achieve this, than to convince investment capital to empty their wallets, funneling it straight into the pockets of dozens if not hundreds more people. It's hardly Robin Hood, but it's also cash that's no longer hoarded at the top.

Plus, we also know that a worthwhile goal is to not go the distance, but simply become a tasty snack for a bigger company before you go bankrupt. This lets your flimsy business model and weak patent portfolio become someone else's problem.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

it is like that with a lot of Ukranian startups - hotshot all the way then sell off and it fucks shit up for others who actually want to turn their startups into a long-running expanding businesses.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A genuine stock market collapse would be very interesting

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

It's ok the stock market isn't the economy and everyone will be fine would you like to open a few hundred wells Fargo chase CITIZENS accounts preloaded with the presidential collection of crypto including 500 newly minted "Barons" ?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The cool thing about inflation is it hides shitty stock market performance.

The greater the inflation, the more stocks and GDP go up!

[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago
[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 4 days ago (9 children)

And yet, the MBAs continue to pump money into it like AI doesn't fail to provide any value in 80% of their shoehorned implementations.

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's wild how many good uses of this tech there are, and how it's mostly implemented in asinine ways, instead. It's great for brainstorming. Not so great for customer fucking service.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

AI is taking customer service jobs by storm because 80% of the tasks they do are answering the same questions over and over for Grandma who can’t remember how to turn on the TeeVee.

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess that's true. Customer service has almost never been able to actually help me, even before.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

If you get to a human who cares, they often can, but it’s even harder now that AI is in the picture.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Chinese and Indians are watching what is happening and busting their guts out laughing.

[–] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

AI: Actually Indians

[–] mrnarwall@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I read through the non paywalled link and I couldn't find any info on if this analysis adjusts for inflation or not. 17 times larger (before inflation possibly) seems so ripe for cherry picked data points in the name of sensationalism, that I wanted to confirm this one idea, and I didn't. Did anyone else find anything like that?

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Next bubble gonna be 64× ?

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[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 45 points 4 days ago (3 children)

it's going to be pretty cool when the USD is annihilated by this

they really boned themselves by concentrating all of it among themselves and basing its value off of fake proof of work factories

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If the USD is annihilated the great depression will look like nothing. Breton Woods ended but America is still smack dab in the middle of everybody's economy. It's why no one is calling in their debt, but keep buying it. It's a fucking global ponzi scheme.

Edit: I just looked it up and 88% of global currency trades involve the dollar.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Its the reserve currency of the world. The only thing that could replace it today is the yuan, which China is absolutely prepared for when that day comes.

The euro could also replace it, but would need additional changes from the governing body of the EU first as its meant to be an amalgamated currency and cant produce enough to be a reserve currency at the moment.

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[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I'm sorry that i must inform you that the world today is one big pot. The 2008 crisis created by the USA housing bubble, affected the whole world. An USD annihilation today after a big bubble burst, means total collapse.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The rest of the world is unfortunately not immune to US problems. What inevitably happens is the bubble pops, the government prints money to bail out the gamblers who benefitted from the bubble, then insist on austerity for regular people to get the resulting inflation under control

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Guys compare the size of American debts to Canada's

All these built out data centers are going to be eye sores when they go bankrupt.

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