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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Taylor is very low on this ladder, like really low

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 26 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Marie Curie killed herself slowly with radiation so she could do science.

Fuck Taylor Swift if she thinks she is bad ass for an album.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

To give credit where credit is due, Taylor Swift has done a lot to push against the ridiculous of the intellectual property rights artists didn't have, and production agencies did have. She broke that and paved a way for future artists. Did she also suck up so much air in the room that it leaves very little space for new artists to breathe, yes. Does she use the same legal system that gave her artistic freedom to crush competition, also yes. She isn't a bad ass just because she drops albums, she's a badass cause she's a ruthless business woman.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

She didnt push back on intellectual rights, she wanted more power and money and realized a way to go about it. Her motivations have been suspect for over a decade now, she represents unchecked greed by americans and glorifying fame and money over anything.

She's just as awful as any other billionaire simply for hoarding so much wealth, or wanting to pursue it. She has the power to show humility and how good people can use power, and has done fuckall with it. She's not an inspiration for anyone but herself, and I'm ashamed to belong to the same country that puts her on the highest of pedestals.

Every other woman mentioned in this thread absolutely dwarf her in any metric we would want to use.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The albums aren't even good, they're bland. She's not one even in the context of other musicians lmfao

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Good musicians dont charge people 1000$ a seat to listen to a recording of the band playing their music, either. Ive had swift fans defend that too. "Oh she has so many shows and they are so long, of course she can't sing the whole time."

What the actual fuck is even happening. I feel bad for real musicians who are affected by this bullshit.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

what has Swift ever done to even be considered a "bad bitch"?

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 11 points 8 hours ago

She's a self-insert for white zoomer women who are high on their own main character syndrome.

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago

Sometimes dress as a "bad bitch"

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Joan of Arc comes to mind.

You got to have some confidence to be a performer, but if you asked Taylor Swift I don’t believe she would say she is one of the baddest bitches in world history lol.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Ada Lovelace, a woman who not only invented computer programming in a time where computers were theoretical mechanical devices, but she also managed to live up to the reputation of both her mother, a female mathematian from the early industrial period, and her father, famed poet and slut Lord Byron. She was a true renaissance woman

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

famed poet and slut Lord Byron

Is that true? checks wiki

Relationships and scandals

Wow this man is a slut

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Yeah he was possibly more famous as a slut, heartbreaker, and all around bisexual catastrophe. He was one of the most interesting and unfortunately destructive people that could enter your life. He likely was bipolar though you can't accurately diagnose the dead even when they're textbook. The literary trope of the byronic hero is named after him both because he wrote these characters and because he acted like one. He was also one of the inspirations of the modern vampire as a charming and seductive nobleman who will ruin you. Other notable things include being the only lord to defend the luddites in parliament (in one of the few times he bothered with it) and him fighting and dying for Greek independence.

Annabelle Byron (her whole name is long enough to make you oppose the concept of nobility), Ada's mother, clearly loved him but understood that he absolutely shouldn't be an influence on their daughter. She also had serious concerns regarding his mental health, which were absolutely warranted given the trail of social destruction he left. And it should be noted that she was a badass in her own right as a gifted woman who worked for abolition, prison reform, and educational reform in addition to the whole leaving the most interesting man of the early industrial period because of fears his mental health issues may harm their kid.

Ada was apparently scandalously relaxed with men and a notorious gambler. People focus on her computer stuff because it's the most important stuff she did (she died young and was far less scandalous than her dad), but I do think there's value in remembering that she was a poet who was suspected in her time of infidelity. There are some people who approach life with a single minded dedication to something or the other, and we tend to think of geniuses as such, but she wasn't one of those people. She was instead someone who followed whatever interesting thing struck her fancy, learning everything she wanted to, though falling often back into a zone of competency. She is in some ways reminiscent of her peer Anne Lister in that regard.

It makes sense Ada doesn't have nearly as many fangirls in the 21st century as her father. Byron was a man who lived and died as the very model of the Gothic literary movement that he was a founder of

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 hours ago

And after her a plenty of other women pioneering all kinds of stuff with computer science, like Grace Hopper who pretty much invented modern programming as we know it today (or at least laid pretty strong foundation for it) among other things. And (kinda-sorta) invented the term 'bug' related to computers.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 25 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Wendy Carlos who double majored in Physics and Music in 1962 and went on develop synthesizers with Robert Moog.

Her album Switched-On Bach essentially invented electronic music in a way mainstream audiences could digest. Taylor Swift really doesn't have any on Wendy Carlos in terms of talent or creativity or even influence. Give Swift another 5 decades and we'll see where her career is.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

It amazes me she's still alive

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I just wish she didn’t have such an extremist take on how people should listen to music. It’s completely destroyed her legacy and her music doesn’t live on the way that it should.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Out of the loop - what's her take?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Basically she completely opposed to digital distribution of any kind. You can only listen to her music by going to a store and buying a record. Her music isn’t even archived on archive.org or available for DRM free purchase on bandcamp or anything like that.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Really? How bizarre.

[–] alyqz@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 19 hours ago

How about Virginia Hall aka "The Limping Lady":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Hall

She was a spy in occupied France during World War II despite having a prosthetic leg. She didn't just make it onto the Nazi's most wanted list, but was referred to as "the most dangerous of all Allied spies".

[–] Empe@piefed.social 13 points 16 hours ago

Freddie and Truus Overstegen. They became members of the dutch resistance age 14 and 15. First they were used as messengers, then they started to lure nazi officers into the woods, where another member of the resistance killed the nazi. Then at age 15 and 16 the killing began. They killed nazis, helped jews to flee and fucking survived….

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 48 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The government did not relent, people donated to essentially buy her a tank.

She sold all of her possessions to donate a tank to the Red Army. She requested the tank, a T-34 medium tank,[3] be named "Fighting Girlfriend" ("Боевая подруга") and that she be allowed to drive it. The State Defense Committee agreed to this.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 88 points 23 hours ago

Marie Curie

She was so hot in her time that you still can't (or shouldn't) go near her (or her things) even after she died in 1934.

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

IIRC, they denied her request because they thought it would be a waste of a tank but then tons of people donated to buy one specifically for her to command.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 70 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I can name several, and that's just women I know personally. Taylor Swift is fine and all but it's not like she's some elevated version of the gender. Fandoms get really weird.

[–] orvorn@slrpnk.net 61 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

She's not fine. She's a billionaire landlord who flies in private jets.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 23 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Ding ding ding

I'm sure as a person she's okay, but yes.

Billionaires shouldn't exist, ever

Private Jets shouldn't exist, ever

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I do not think there is a separation between billionaires the people from billionaires as a construct. I really think they are genuinely bad people. It's impossible to remain subject to the same stressors of life that bind society with that kind of money. It begins to distance one and they break away from the fabric of society but with an immense footprint upon that society. Chances are you are a pretty good person. If you came into a billion dollars tomorrow, you wouldn't be a good person within a year. It corrupts absolutely.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If you came into a billion dollars tomorrow and had the opportunity to help so many people but kept it all for yourself you're already not a good person. You don't even need to wait a year.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

If I came into a billion dollars I'd spend the rest of my time attempting to spend it helping people. I would expect the same of anyone else. Someone's going to inherit a billionaire fortune soon and just give it all away, at least thats my hope. Someone's gotta lead by example.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 3 points 20 hours ago

Bluesky shitlibs would have some strong words for you, as well as anyone (me) that would dare disrespect their queen, their fierce feminine icon!

[–] kronarbob@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Milunka Savic

I mean, she was badass AND Sabaton made a song about her !

[–] Quexotic 41 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Lyudmila Pavlichenko, a Soviet sniper who is often called "Lady Death." She had 309 confirmed kills during World War 2, making her the most successful female sniper in history.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

She never killed a single man, only fascists

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago

We also have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Lee_%28mathematician%29?wprov=sfla1

A lady who dealt the deathblow to craniology, and worked as an academic during the late Victorian era. Let that sink in - she managed this pre-sufferage.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 34 points 22 hours ago

Easy, like all of them. Shes had the easiest life you could have. Worst thing that happened in her life is she got dumped.

Anyone with a Wikipedia page with a philanthropy section cannot qualify as a bad bitch imo.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 18 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The tank pilot story provokes a shower thought - Karens could be really useful and productive if we could only channel their energy the right direction.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Is it just me or does Swift look like a barrister in that picture?

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

She has a Kay Lee Frye (Jewel Staite) look about her.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago
[–] dymmu@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

She actually is. My partner had to hang out with them for the day a while back. Taylor was really nice, her mother was a bitch. Death stared my partner for accidentally tripping Taylor over, while the two of them were laughing about it. Couldn't understand what was wrong with her mother, but think she just saw Taylor as a cash cow.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

But could she pull off black lipstick?

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 4 points 22 hours ago

Yes. Yes she could.