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But if I say billionaires should pay more taxes or be euthanized I’m put on a list
Why the fuck are there still whales there and why are the corpos allowed to threaten death if these whales. They wanted to sell them to china (where they most likely will be further abused), now if they can't get money they'll kill them?
C'mon Ottawa, force them to rehabilitate and release them, even if it kills the park.
C'mon Ottawa, force them to rehabilitate and release them, even if it kills the park.
A lot of animals cannot be rehabilitated and released. If they were born and raised in captivity, they have effectively no chance of survival on their own. I don't know what the situation is for these animals, but I've been to plenty of zoos and aquariums in the past that have rehabilitation programs and even they have a few "lifers" who will never leave.
AFAIK there are rarely whales born in captivity and nearly all were stolen from their pods and thrown into a swimming pool.
And when you feed bears you get bears that can't survive on their own.
Same deal.
Only animal I know that even has a chance in the would is a domestic house cat. Some can't learn to hunt, some can, you never know. And mostly how they survive is finding humans to care for them, so maybe that doesn't really count.
In the past, attempts to rehabilitate whales have taken decades and resulted in failure. The whales have simply become wholly dependent on humans to feed them and give them company.
TBH, though, most of them kept in captivity end in suicides as the reverberations from their small enclosures are like living in a room where the alarms blare 24/7 so the euthanization might actually be a gift to them.
So it comes down to putting them in the wild to die slowly or kill them outright. If I had to choose I guess I'd want them released, but I'm not really in either camp. I also really don't like the idea of continuing their suffering in captivity.
You only read the headline didn't you
That's a great reason not to raise wild animals in captivity.
They'll be held as hostages by corpo scum.
"Give me money, or I'll kill 30 whales. Ahahahah! They're mine, and I can do whatever I want! AHAHAAHAH! Hail HR! Hail HR!"
That's not fiction. That's the story.
"we're closing. We cannot afford to keep these whales with no staff and no land. We want to move them to another habitat which has agreed to keep these animals which cannot be released."
"No because they could maybe be mistreated."
"They WILL be neglected here and the people buying the land will need them gone. It's euthanasia or transport. Or you adopt them."
Barring a time machine to stop the park from opening in 1961, that's the options.
The option is right there in the article:
Under provincial law, Ontario has the power to seize the whales to ensure their safety – recouping any costs incurred when the park is sold.
How much do you wanna bet that any fines for killing the whales will be substantially cheaper than relocation, so the park will do that and just eat the fine rather than risk the province confiscate the whales and then charge them later?
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
*Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives again
🎶 Every one haaaaaates Marineland! 🎶
Me reading headline: I fuckin bet it is Marineland. Me reading the first paragraph of the article: I fucking knew it! Fucking marineland.
"Look what you're making me do"
Canada or Ontario should liberate the whales and take over the property for the necessary property and income to do so.
This Marine Park fellow sounds like one bad hombre.
Yeah and he’s also dead. Used to smuggle illegal Belugas to breed and imprison them at Marineland. He’s already in hell.
The government should seize the property and the assets of the owners and shareholders and anyone related to the owners to pay for this. You don’t end up here by accident.
But they’ll just get their way and retire wealthy.
Marineland is still trying to continue existing?
It’s provincial jurisdiction. Blame Doug Ford.
Turn it into a spa, folks!
I dont get why the government is blocking sending the whales to China tho. If the choice is the government bankrolling Marineland, the whales being killed or the whales being sent to China isn't selling them to China the obviously best choice? Are they worried that the big bad Chinese will steal our Whale IP?
Everyone is big mad about the whales. Meanwhile, there's a whole lot of other animals that aren't famous being fucked with, and humans, and a pretty compelling case that the costs of caring for damn belugas is actually pretty burdensome.
It's not bad people care about show whales. It's bad that it's vastly disproportionate.
It is proportionate
to their size
(In all seriousness, it's a lot easier to make suitable living quarters for most other animals. If you can't make suitable living quarters, it's unethical, full stop. Yes I'm including factory farm meat in that)
I don't actually disagree with that, which is why "don't euthanise them but also don't do anything with them" isn't being accepted by the company as an answer. I only know MarineLand from the ads, but any habitat multiple whales can at least sort of live in will be no joke.
Why not release them?
If they were born and raised in captivity their odds of survival are pretty low. Like someone who always lived in a large city and never went camping being dropped off in Alaska odds of survival.
Rehabilitation only helps so much without the actual experience of growing up with other members of their species in the wild.
Edit: Of course the adults in the wild are the ones that survived until adulthood so I still lean towards attempts to rehabilitate and release, just noting it isn't as simple as releasing.
True
because it'll still cost money to move them to like Newfoundland or whatever.
This is Marineland, in Niagara Falls, you can't just "release them" unless you want 30 Beluga whales going over the falls.
Plus releasing them is just killing them. They'll likely die in the wild.