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Pro-Palestine organizers credits “how the movement for Palestine has intervened,” for seismic shift in public opinion

Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/10/07/poll-indicates-over-60-of-jews-in-the-us-believe-israel-has-committed-war-crimes/


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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, the polls in Israel aren't nearly as generous. If you think the US is drowning in fascist, the Israeli press is a tidal wave of unchecked genocidal vulgarity. People straight up calling for the total extermination of Arab peoples on air and being greeted with applause.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, our media here in the States is insanely horrible.

I cannot fathom why so many Israelis are acting so evil. I actually don't know a single Jewish person here that supports the genocide. Those I do now are actually amazingly upset about it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I cannot fathom why so many Israelis are acting so evil

For starters, their media is genuinely worse. The politics is just as bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians_as_animals_in_Israeli_discourse

Rehavam Ze'evi, at the time Minister for Tourism, once referred to the 180,000 Palestinians working in Israel as a cancer, "lice" Israel must rid itself of.

So that's the baseline of discourse, and it goes downhill from there.

I actually don’t know a single Jewish person here that supports the genocide.

I've got family up in NYC who continue to insist it's not a genocide and who will point to Oct 7th any time Israeli war crimes as mentioned.

Of course, this same family will complain about how many fat black women there are on the subway and tell me how they're having too many kids.

So...

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

The other 40% is somehow still completely unaware of reality.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 4 points 2 days ago

40% of jews in the UK are assholes then. I hate this timeline

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I only know a few that live around here but everyone of them can see it for what it is.

[–] s@piefed.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Since many members of various social groups and political movements have an “It’s ok when our guys do it” philosophy, is there follow-up data as to who thought “Yes, they did war crimes and they were the good/bad kind of war crimes”?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Or rather separate the question "war crimes were committed" from "the war should be stopped now" vs "the war should be stopped when Hamas has lost". For example,I think it's a kind of an objective fact that Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza, but I don't think that implies that the war should be stopped before Hamas is thoroughly beaten.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

58 percent say they have some or a lot in common with Israeli Jews.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay, but more important than the question of whether they've done it is the question of whether it matters. Canada's got a history of seeing what we now call war crimes as "the Geneva to-do lists", but we seemingly don't hold it against them.

So - does it matter? And why should it matter in this case and not others?

[–] markko@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It should matter in all cases. In Canada's case, it is a historical issue and cannot be undone, whereas this is ongoing and can be changed.

Canada has paid reparations to victims, and many efforts have been made to document and acknowledge the harm done.

While this may well be a case of "too little, too late", it's not something many people can see Israel ever doing, especially since most Canadians were unaware of the residential schools until very recently, while the majority of Israelis have made their feelings towards Palestinians very clear.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

Probably 30% live under a rock and have no opinion

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

why do we need polls for this?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Because people want to blame the Gaza genocide on Jews instead of holding the leaders and soldiers of Israel responsible.

Jewish hate needs to not be tolerated

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Another 60% believe the sky is blue. The rest are not sure, too hard to think.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Edit, didn't see the other poll.

~~I feel the title is a bit disingenuous. The questionnaire didn't have a "Is Israel committing warcrimes/conducting genocide/starving people" or anything like that. It does contain "Has Israel gone too far?" and "Are you concerned about military killing civilians" for example.~~

It's a nice read with graphics.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/10/03/how-americans-view-the-israel-hamas-conflict-2-years-into-the-war/

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I retract my statement, didn't see it referenced two polls and thought it was extrapolating a stat by not including "Not sure" on a milder question.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wonder what percent think they didn't commit war crimes vs those that are on the fence

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is feeding literal antisemitism

The Jewish population is a diverse set of people who may or may not support Israel.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess the Zionists should stop committing war crimes then to stop feeding it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Jewish population is not committing war crimes. That is like saying that all Asian people are loyal to China. It is just plain racist and takes pressure and responsibility off of the people responsible.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Where have I mentioned Jews? Zionist =/ Jew.

It's people like you who conflate Judaism with Zionism are the ones who are hurting Jews by spreading prejudice.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I know for a fact war crimes were committed by the allies in WWII.

Also it would be nice to know the exact wording of the question, samples size, margin of error, etc. because that can be relevant. But this looks to be another propaganda site trying to pass itself off as a news site. We can't expect professional journalism from sites like that.

[–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know for a fact war crimes were committed by the allies in WWII.

And in your mind that makes what Israel is doing completely fine??

Also it would be nice to know the exact wording...

OP already linked the PDF. Here's a screenshot showing the question:

And here's one from the referenced Pew survey:

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well it's like Chief Wiggum saying "I heard there were some crimes in New York" "Oh you admit there's crimes in New York? That makes you guilty!"

Crimes happen in every city. Crimes also happen in every war. Recognizing that crimes happen in war time has the same significance as recognizing the fact that crimes happen in cities. Feeling like you "got 'em!" because of the existence of crime puts you on the same level as Chief Wiggum. It's really silly.

Also I need to remind you, holding civilians hostage is a war crime. Hamas has committed a continuous war crime since October 7. Do you go out and protest Hamas? Why not?

[–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funny you don't see the irony of that actually being your argument.

Do you go out and protest Hamas?

What a ridiculous question. The vast majority of governments have made their feelings about Hamas very clear. Do you go out and protest crime?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

Police brutality is a crime. Do you think it's ridiculous to protest that?

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I agree completely - Washington Post is a propaganda site. Though they did provide a detailed pdf with the full questions and methodology that is linked in this article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/tablet/2025/10/06/sept-2-9-2025-washington-post-jewish-americans-poll/