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They have a ‘Hate America’ rally that’s scheduled for October 18 on the National Mall,” the House speaker, Mike Johnson, said on Fox News on Friday. “It’s all the pro-Hamas wing and, you know, the antifa people. They’re all coming out.”

On 18 October, tens of millions of people in the streets, peacefully exercising the democratic rights that the Trump regime is laboring to eliminate, will give the lie to Maga’s hallucinatory network of bomb-throwing traitors. No Kings will show America who the real haters are.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Trump has been signaling a false flag of sorts when he claimed that Biden put FBI agents in the January 6th "protests" (his word, not mine) and incited violence.
So I'm fully expecting violence, but not from the people there actually protesting.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

they will have bodies in the with the protestors egging people on.

Just a suggestion. if you see someone in the protest with handcuffs printing in their pocket, mention it to the organizers/safety peeps. Especially if they're encouraging people to escalate things.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes. Agent provocateurs have been a tool of the right for decades, at least.

What ever did happen to Umbrella Man, by the way?

https://www.startribune.com/umbrella-man-minneapolis-autozone-george-floyd/601357315

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

They have investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing, I imagine.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They did at the last No Kings. We didn't take the bait.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yup!

I believe the strategy was to just sit down.

[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh there will be violence, it was preordained...

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love how antifa is their favorite boogeyman. Just quietly admitting to being fascists all along.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not even a group, but they know that. It's literally just short hand for people that are anti fascism. Republicans aren't that, so they have to demonize it to have an enemy.

[–] muffedtrims@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

If it isn't antifa, it's BLM, the trans, the gays, or the immigrants. There is always another strawman Boogeyman.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

Tell us youve planned a false flag without telling us you've planned a false flag.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Violent treason? No. It's violent within reason.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I hate that we are reduced to using nonsense baby-words like "maga" and "maha" to talk about the Confederates. They are not the least bit interested in making America great. Or healthy.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Maga is a nonsense word to me. I never sound the acronym out word by word in my head.

It's just one more four letter word that is synonymous with hate.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

MAHA? I can guess what the H is, but I haven't engineered that one before.

edit: That was supposed to be "encountered."

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

H = healthy. Because the same ding-a-lings that think taking us back to the 1950s - or 1850s - will make us "great" also think Bobby Brainworm + Taco are going to take the country on a path to being healthy (again).

I wonder what time period they think we were the healthiest? When doctors were endorsing cigarette smoking? When we had lead in our gasoline and in our paint chips? How about when we had asbestos nearly everywhere? How about radium on our glow in the dark watches? When cars were unsafe at any speed?

I know Brainworm would rather we didn't have vaccines and swims in sewage, so I'm not sure if he would rather take us back to the time when access to clean water was rather difficult, shall we say, and children died of diseases we have mostly confined to the history books except in rare cases, thanks to vaccines.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

TIL. That's not what I would have guessed the H was. Thank you for the edification.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Donald doesn’t care if the protests are peaceful. He will just lie and say they’re violent. He’s been doing it for months now.

I’m not encouraging violence, but don’t let the fear of “seeming violent” keep you from going out. They’ll paint us as violent regardless.

I like what Portland has done with the silly costumes. Mock their seriousness.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago

We need like bbq cookout protests.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

There is violent treason in the streets of America .... perpetrated by government sanctioned thugs in masks, no identification, unidentified cars and are actively kidnapping and arresting people without restriction

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Prove them wrong

Yeah! We'll beat today's Nazis just like we did with the Nazis in WW2 - with sit-ins and angrily worded signs and... um... wait, how we beat the Nazis in WW2? Feels like I'm forgetting something important...

[–] Curmuffin@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

Can I borrow your armored division? I got a few... errands to run.

Sometimes. You just have to let the machine go through the motions.

[–] klammeraffe@lemmy.cafe 7 points 2 days ago

Lmfao, the Guardian shilling for Trump. Let’s keep it “ineffective” everyone. Let’s not get the right-wing scared or anything. Just lots of “thoughts and prayers and sassy signs and inflatable frog suits” let’s show them we won’t do a damn thing

(I love that frog tho)

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

That they are so desperate to be fighting an insurrection is terrifying. One good excuse and they'll start killing people.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like how Meidas pointed out that little Mikey couldn't even say the actual name of the rallies, since being against kings is kinda America's brand identity.

This is the party that cannot even say the fucking name of the Democratic Party though, so....shrug. They've been saying it incorrectly for 70+ years because they are fucking children. Again, Murc's Law - they are expected, to a one, even at the top of their party, to behave like brats, but the Democratic Party is expected to be the adults at all times. Just imagine if the Democratic Party started to say "Publican Party" at every opportunity, from the President all the way down to liberal talking heads, and no one were to question them about it?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/01/democrat-party-republican-insult.html

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

man, that ‘democrat party’ bullshit is one of the very few digs that actually bugs me. and it’s been on for so long that i think there’s a whole generation that doesn’t know the actual name.

i tried ‘republic party’ for a while, but as you can see, i failed to make fetch happen.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It annoys me, too, and probably because it's been going on for 70+ years (multi-generational at this point) and gets zero push back. From people that sure as hell know better and are in a position to ask why Republicans cannot use the right name. Just question it. Embarrass them. Keep asking why adult leaders in their party are being so childish - do they even know the right name?

It's one thing if it's people online goofing or people on the street, whatever. I do it quite frequently and come up with nicknames for the opposition. But I'm not a politician and I'm not a talking head. I have no platform and no power and no prominence.

How an entire party can get away with it and have zero commentary on it in any meaningful way is really wild.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You CAN'T "prove wrong" ideology/prejudice/"religion",

aka any AXIOM-BASED rejecting-of-falsification, belief.

It isn't possible because axioms aren't subject-to-objectivity.

They will either force violence, enforce violence, XOR/AND have false-flag actors in-place to "prove" their "fact".

It is a trap.

Civil-rights are going to get at-least-partially rug-pulled as a result of Saturday's protests.

IF Trump can permanently-remove any threat of accountability, & permanently-deactivate the petition to get the Epstien-files released, HE IS GOING TO.

Social-assertion isn't fundamental-enough, or powerful-enough to do what the left is assuming it must do!

( the left obeys social-pressure: that's left-culture!

Which means that the left can't understand when others don't.

That is why Naomi Klien had to publish "Saying No Isn't Enough" .. or whatever her book was called .. because the left wasn't GETTING it.

Courts, sousveillance, private-investigating-and-prosecuting-right-crime, THAT could apply the kind of pressure required, but social-pressure's the wrong too to produce the required-results.

It's a 1-way tool: it only works against the consensus-motivated left, not against the authority-and-conforming-enforcing right. )

sigh

Expect the left to find the "ground" they're "standing on" to have been gutted, by next week.

& the escalations will only continue progressing: this isn't the BIG tipping-point, this is just one of the buildup ones.

( this was all built on the shit-quality "education" that the US's the-rich-get-good-education-the-poor-don't paradigm enforced, through the last .. century+.

It isn't possible to save a country's life if its population is "educated" into the lower-forebrain's imprint->reaction paradigm, instead of the upper-forebrain's objectivity + considered-reasoning paradigm:

the only question left is which ideology will gain supremacism,

not can-ideology-the-system-be-prevented-from-ruling-us. )

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[–] klammeraffe@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It’s not even a buildup when we’re pumping up a tire with a hole in it. We’re just keeping it where it is.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

So I went to the first no kings and several of the other big “protests” that are really just big rally’s with police sanctioned marches, I don’t criticize those attending even though I was and am less than enthused by how anti disruptive and status quo the organizers insist on being. I’m not going to the big one in my state tomorrow because it feels like a trap this time. Just got a bad feeling

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My gut tells me it will be violent, let’s just hope the ones committing that violence have their court ordered body cams on.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bodycams "don't work" in all such cases.

The Breona Taylor case had the officers claim that there weren't any bodycams present, but 1 of the pieces of evidence collected was the camera-head of a bodycam.

The ACLU has published on this, after a case where FIVE bodycams were claimed by police to not-work, in an incident where they were accused of crime.

Accountability never is allowed by authority, unless authority is coerced into accountability,

& that goes throughout ALL civilization, not just state-authority ( business bosses, institutions which mutilate rights from the lives subject to them, family-abuse even! it's fundamental to abuse's leveraging-more-authority-for-itself, & police-services simply happens to be 1 place where people committed to it gain extra-advantage from doing-so. )

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I’m not sure what your point is. If I were a fascist government who wanted lawless police, I would like comments like yours and say “body cams don’t work so let’s get rid of them”.

[–] SleeplessCityLights@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember to bring some eye protection, don't let those nazis shoot you in the eye with objects. Safety glass can stop a peice of sharp metal flying a million miles an hour in a machine shop.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Yes, non-lethal doesn't mean non-disabling. Think defensively, since they're going to be the violent ones.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Who gives a fuck what they think. Those fascist traitors have no say in being violent.

Fuck them. Give us the opportunity and we will hunt these fuckin proud boys/ice fucks.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

"Prove them wrong" cope.

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