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[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

CoMaps is a nice offline alternitive. Not perfect,but it respects privacy

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

to be clear this isn't a privacy issue. they are allowing companies to pay to be featured more prominently in the app.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you overpay them for crappy iPhone and have to pay them again by watching ads?

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don’t forget web users. Duck duck go uses Apple Maps.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I love how everyone is calling Apple users dumb here when Google has been doing the same thing for longer and both platforms let you install other map apps.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Yes, but apple has been charging double the price for their products on the basis of 'privacy' and 'premiumness'

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 week ago (26 children)

So I'm actually a moderately tech-savvy individual. Software engineer, been using Linux since Karmic Koala (of course I've used many other distros since then, including Gentoo for a few years and now I'm using TumbleWeed on one computer and NixOS on another). I can even figure out how a printer works, believe it or not.

I just hate this whole "only stupid people who don't know about tech buy iPhones" rhetoric.

Samsung and Google have caught up in prices. I guess only Google is a tiny bit cheaper, Samsung is definitely right up there with Apple.

OnePlus was a good option if you wanted a cheaper flagship, but they both 1) ruined their OS and 2) went more expensive.

I actually bought an iPhone for 4 primary reasons:

  1. Lightning port is easier to clean out than USB-C and I get a LOT of pocket lint for some reason.

  2. Carplay used the entire screen in my S205 whereas Android Auto had the Android Auto logo on like 1/3 of the screen.

  3. Back when I did it, Apple was the only one giving 5-6 years of major OS upgrades to their old phones and OnePlus only gave me 3, lagging far behind AOSP and the whole OxygenOS to ColorOS switch RUINED the phone for me. I did use a custom ROM for a while before that, but my bank app stopped working with that regardless of whatever I did, so I switched to stock ROM and then upgraded to ColorOS and the phone became nearly unusable. It was 3 years old (the model, anyway; the phone in question was 2 years old). Every single one of my iPhone using friends said that never has a major OS upgrade inconvenienced them in any way.

  4. I just felt like I don't have time to play with custom ROMs and stuff anymore and since I don't, I might as well go with the option that works great out of the box, rather than the one that I can infinitely customize to my liking.

Now, this whole issue: It's not actually using user data AFAIK, so there are no privacy implications in this specific instance IMO. They just allow companies to pay to show up near the top in Maps. Not a move I'm a fan of, but I'm assuming Google has been doing this for a decade or 2 at least.

Does that mean I trust Apple? Fuck no. They're still a for-profit corporation. They still want to make as much profit as possible.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You aren't crazy. I've switched back and forth and currently have an iPhone, but currently primarily use a Thinkpad with a nice minimal Sway-based Alpine Linux desktop and a handful of Debian and 'BSDs kicking around on various machines. There are dozens of us!

Apple phones eeks out current Google options for privacy, security, minimalism, and service life, IMHO, but barely, and other people will argue the other way - I don't care. When there is a legit Linux phone option, I'll probably move then. I just try to use a phone as little as possible in my interaction with technology.

I don't actually regard them as a healthy form-factor for technology. A keyboard and 14' screen is more conducive to creating things or fulsomeness discussion in written form. Depending on the content, they are better for consuming text content (though eReaders are better for some content), and for multi-media consumption, large screens like TVs are better for the eyes.

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[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apple has really lost its identity.

Apple Silicon is really all that seperate them.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Eh. Even mediatek chips are getting to the point where they’re enough. Chip doesn't really matter anymore.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

mediatek chips are garbage compared to qualcomm and apple. anytime i had to use a phone with a mediatek chip in it, or a chromebook, it was so bad.

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[–] VampirePenguin@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All of these Big Tech companies are slimy fucks actively working to enslave humanity. There are no good guys. I puked in my mouth watching Tim Cook fawn over Trump. None of these people have a shred of decency. Fuck Apple. Fuck Google. Buy a paper map.

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Better yet, help support open data initiatives like OpenStreetMaps or alternatives. No reason why maps can't be digital without ads.

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 25 points 1 week ago
[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

i just wish OSM was more complete… it’s fine for big cities, but when you live in small rural areas it’s practically useless. my village only has its roads mapped, nothing else.

(and yes i know you can edit the map. and that it’s the entire point of OSM. i know that. but it takes a ton of effort, and it’s an ongoing effort because cities change!)

OSM contributors, you are amazing and cherished and your work does not go unappreciated. i just wish there was more of us…

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

I know of a few rural places that have far more information on OSM than Google. Especially if those areas have a lot of hiking trails. Looking at the logs, it's typically a small handful of people adding things over significant time. It's worth keeping both on your device, and making edits on occasion. Rural areas change pretty slowly typically.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago

Funny thing, over here, OSM actually got weird rural stuff for a couple of rural towns I visited frequently about a year before Google Maps (and other proprietary services) was usable there. I think it had to do with some open-data drop from the government.

And seeing the services grow side by side also kind of gave away what their priorities were. Google: putting the local businesses and services on the map. OSM: document every single cool and convenient foot and bike trail.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Once you create a monetization team that puts ads in shit, they’re going to want to keep putting more ads in stuff. They’re all judged on how much better they do year over year.

Apple should’ve never created a team that sold ads on their platforms.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is CoMaps the only alternative besides google maps?

[–] jbaber@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 week ago
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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mac user for over 30 years, no problem - they make it easier and easier to say goodbye, which it's now time for, thanks to Apple adding on to Trump's mansion with a huge donation after the gold award earlier this year.

Steve Jobs wasn't sure Tim was right for the creative side of the Mac, but he knew the business side would keep humming. And now here we are, Apple the IBM of 90 years ago, so happy to help out the fascists.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 1 week ago

That will inconvenience the Apple map user. I'm sure they're devastated by this news.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I’m done.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Can’t say I’m surprised but it’s such a shame. I’m guessing this ties inter their newly launched timeline feature. Maps was at least up to this point a better alternative to Google Maps.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Something organic will replace it.

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[–] Mattr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't use Apple, but honestly Apple is ruining everything, while Organic Maps and others are winning.

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