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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 199 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is pretty much my stance.

A whole lot of what the right gets uppity about is none of falls strictly in the 'none of their fucking business' category

A common dog whistle for the right is individual rights and freedoms... Yet they get hung up on things like trans rights which are checks notes individual rights and freedoms

[–] z500@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yeah, but you forget about their individual right and freedom not to feel offended.

[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More like their right and freedom to feel superior to others by invalidating them.

[–] AgriasArseid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago

I wish it was only invalidating. This is actively kicking them down.

[–] Khotetsu@lib.lgbt 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

*Their individual right and freedom to infringe upon other people's rights without consequences.

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 94 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Love to see it. Not shocked, though.

For an opposite example, the creator of a niche programming language that is the only one I'm interested in (it's really great, and I haven't seen anything that comes close to fitting the same place) said something at-very-least stupid which was the final straw that caused a core developer (nearly co-creator? created the package manager+installer, wrote a book) to quit. And it already had a low bus-factor.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can't say that without spilling the deets. What language?

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wouldn't have been difficult to sleuth using my profile here, but Nim-lang. Specifically because it's basically an all-in-one, being easy and fast+capable+flexible. Maybe not enough to go by (and I didn't finish/release it), but some code that I actually wrote (+what it's loading)

For further context on the statement by the creator, it was complaining about the "grammar" of singular they. Aside from that being an obvious culture-war BS dogwhistle, the person who quit knew them closely so I don't think it was an overreaction or misunderstanding.

@Serdan

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, damn. Why do assholes gotta ruin everything?

I've seen Nim before. It looks interesting, and I like the promise of a no-nonsense, performant language. I'm comfortable over here in dotnet land though. 😄

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

dotnet, go, and rust seem like the most promising languages at the moment.

[–] beto@lemmy.studio 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Singular they has been used for something like 7 centuries.

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Yes, that's why I said it was at-least stupid. It isn't even an uncommon thing in modern usage. We can accept it without it being a political thing, and it matters even less in an online community.

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Which language?

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 85 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember having a conversation with my conservative boss. He said something stupid about not understanding pronouns and the look on his face when I told him it didn't matter because the pronouns aren't for him. If he can't take a few minutes to understand why someone uses a specific pronoun, it's better that he just excuses himself from it. He just couldn't understand why I would exclude him in that way. Like fuck you dude, you bring it up, get upset when you can't understand and then think it's all about you. Fuck off.

[–] VicentAdultman@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would be better if you just started calling him she, they or it. You would probably be fired, but he would get the message. mostly wouldn't you never know with them people

[–] redprog@feddit.de 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They'd be fired, and he wouldn't have got the message. I'm 100% confident on this one

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The boss doesn't need to get the message. How it works isn't complicated and I don't believe that anyone just can't understand it. That's not the issue and never has been.

They just hate trans people.

[–] DocCrankenstein@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Bingo. The message isn't for the boss. It's for my coworkers who might be hiding their identity because of that boss to know they have someone in their corner.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I want to see Linus and Stallman fight

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[–] janet_catcus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 years ago

huh... i have no idea who that other person is but linus being this based is nice

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Lemmling@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

@torvalds@social.kernel.org

[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this implies torvalds is a community on social.kernel.org.

person mentions have @ not ! (also you can't follow people on lemmy yet)

[–] Lemmling@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I was just testing if it will work, Would be cool if I can follow him like a community and interact with his posts

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

Best Linus.

[–] whodatdair@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago

What a fuckin legend

[–] Lampshadiest@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago

I knew there was a reason besides Linux that made me love Linus.

[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago

Nicely done, very based indeed.

[–] DocCrankenstein@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bea-fucking-utifully said.

[–] gornius@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I already had a huge respect for him for being really pragmatic, but after this post my respect for him climbed a level above I thought wasn't even possible.

And that's without considering the guy basically made software that runs >99% of modern internet.

[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago
[–] spare_muppets@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago

This is pure gold

[–] Sqooky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago
[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn't this the "woke communist" that runs his company in a shitty way? Overworks employees and stuff? I'm not familiar with the drama is just weird not seeing anything about that in the comments

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Different Linus. This Linus made Linux, he's not the one who does tech tips.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh cool, I think I've always just assumed Torvalds was LTT's last name bc I didn't know they were different people lol

[–] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

ltt linus's last name is Sebastian

[–] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago

I was OOT on this until you clarified it. On the phone as well so that didn't help either. I was probably going to get there but you definitely saved me about half a tank.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Even though wrong Linus (Torvalds is the Linus who made Linux) I'm glad someone brought that up. Last time I saw LTT he was cozying up with nazis. Last time I heard about him he was being a PR-washing ultralib. He's been beloved among reactionaries every step of the way.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

In another life, I delivered a package to Linus and he answered the door in a bathrobe at 1:30 in the afternoon, just got out of the shower. Nice guy.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I need to be able to upvote more than once!