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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Does he know that successive climate catastrophes will set the poor back too, even with help?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

he probably knows, and he doesnt care, which is why his "philantropy" seemed extremely disingenuous.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 11 points 2 days ago

The man doesn't know the price of groceries. He's completely detached from society and real life.

The climate catastrophe is a whole fuckload of problems caused by humans changing the climate. It's not just "it gets a little warmer" it's death of habitat for various species, it's ocean acidification, it's weather changes, it's crop failures.

It'll lead to things like mass migrations of people from places that are no longer habitable due to a loss of access to water or food, or because their homes get flooded or destroyed by severe weather. We might see camps as massive populations migrate, there'll be infrastructure problems. We'll see starvation, and disease, perhaps another pandemic.

As people migrate to other places there'll be border disputes, xenophobia, increased nationalism. We might even see people get shot as they're trying to enter other countries, it's not like we don't see that already.

The problem isn't "it gets a little warmer" is everything else that follows.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

We should focus on both of those things and take all these clowns money away. Seriously, Bill Gates just goes around the world now and makes speeches to people about how to make the world worse. We should just put him in prison and use his money to improve the world somewhat.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Aid for the poor is not something we should focus on, at least not as Bill Gates uses it. Aid inherently creates dependency and a power dynamic. Foreign aid plays an integral part to developing populations' subjugation to multinational corporations and their corrupt local government allies. Bill Gates promotes aid for the poor because he wants to continue subjugating the poor.

Thanks to aid for the poor, Bill Gates sets standards for the school curriculums of many US American schools, and Bill Gates can heavily influence law in East African countries, where his malaria eradication charity is picking which countries to save tens of thousands of lives in. Including the ones that just happen to be building the East Africa Crude Oil Pipeline that Bill Gates is complaining climate activists are protesting against.

What we need is (1) unconditional redistribution of wealth so that poverty doesn't exist, and (2) mutual aid between equal peers, and never the two shall meet.

Delete Microsoft's patents, give Microsoft product maintenance over to open source volunteers, do the same with all other companies, defund the police, introduce global universal basic income, delete private ownership, see people move into billionaire's mansions, hijack their yachts to use for ocean plastic cleanup, convert corporate offices to housing, etc. I don't know if prison would be necessary at that point - he seems like enough of an opportunist that if he understands his best way to be free and comfortable in solarpunk bliss is to never take on any position of power ever again, he would just peacefully retire.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 11 points 2 days ago

I agree with you right up until you started talking about how he would just blissfully retire if he saw how great it would be.

These people would nuke the entire planet before they’d allow you to remove their wealth from them. It absolutely needs to be done with force and needs to be ensured that it can never happen again.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

My first thought: why do these efforts have to be exclusive? We can do both.

[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We should use some of his money to build a nice, comfy, and secure prison for him. Same for other billionaires. They know deep down that's a merciful outcome for them in the "climate apocalypse" they've created.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Not worth the bloodshed and extinction risk imo. Comfy prisons is the best outcome I can envision there.

[–] 123@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

Almost got away with it too

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] guismo@aussie.zone 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not a lot of people I hate more than him.

I prefer the usual villain that kills the world and doesn't pretend to be sorry.

This shithead did so much evil, destroyed education worldwide with his fight against open source, made the whole world poorer and now pretends to be a nice guy.

At leat Steve jobs was an asshole all the way to his grave. I prey for you to die more quickly bill gates.