Unless it runs Linux, what's the fucking point?
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Steam Deck: Already runs Linux.
GabeCube: Confirmed it will run Linux.
Steam Frame: Confirmed it will run Linux.
Obviously Valve has made no overtures whatsoever towards making a phone. But if they did, what on Earth would lead you to believe that it wouldn't run Linux?
You know what, value releasing a Linux phone is actually plausible. Like, they could totally do it. Lots of people would like it, they could enter a new market with an idea they would be willing to play to that the establishment absolutely refuses to…
Dude, you joke but this is a plausible path the Linux phones going mainstream.
Openness. So far, Valve hardware offering is not trying to coerce you into a closed ecosystem, is not trying to forbid you from doing whatever the fuck you want with your device, and is not trying to force you to do things their way. They come with Steam, but you can basically do anything with them. Including removing Steam if you desire. And you can peek under the hood all you want.
The current mobile phone market is either walled garden jail from Apple, where you have to follow their value to the T, broken iphone where you have to jump through hoops to get something that may or may not survive the next update at the whim of our corporate overlords, or Android, which I like the most, where Google can pull a fast one on you installing an app by hand if they so desire (yes, I know they sort of walked back… for now).
Today, I see the phone I own as a necessary liability because of banking apps and such. I'd like a phone that would feel more like a device I own and can somewhat trust.
Is Valve the best player for that? No idea. But no current player is. At best we got some software offering built to support a very limited subset of hardware, and that software offering is still tied to the upstream (usually AOSP) playing nice.
Was gonna comment you misspelled SOAP 🧼, but just in case I did a quick joojle and it actually turns out it's "Android Open Source Project" (for any other newbs like me reading this).
I think linux is the point. Because Valve has put SteamOS on their VR headset (which uses the same processor I have in my phone) it would be expected for them to do the same to a phone. Having a phone with an optimized emulator, a normal linux for arm desktop mode, and Steam built in would be very nice IMO, there are a lot of PC games that play fairly well with on-screen controls or even one of those controller phone cases that you can buy, and it's very hard to find good mobile games in comparison. I have the app Winulator on my phone, which sort of does that same thing, except not insanely reliably, and with meh UX, and it can't really run Steam (last I checked, I couldn't get it to work, it might be easier now idk), and you can't run linux x86 or ARM apps or windows ARM apps through it like I think people will be able to on the Steam frame.
You know, I would 100% buy a phone from them if it runs Linux
With the amount of work they are putting in compatibility layers technology, I wouldn't be surprised if you could run The Witcher 3 on it out of the box.
people are saying that the witcher 3 works really well with the winulator app (uses wine and box86, which i've heard usually performs a tiny bit better than FEX, what valve is using, at the cost of occasional innacuracies)

not disagreeing, but if you just want to run the witcher 3 on your phone you can do it right now
Me too, even if I could have more bang for my buck elsewhere.
Give it a decent camera, battery life and good security as well as privacy and take my money already!
Having a Linux phone that has chroot compartments for Android apps is the dream.
Steam Xperia Linux phone would be a dream. I think if a Steam phone did well then other companies like Asus would jump into Linux phone.
Then suddenly we get mainstream alternatives to Android.
Fuck it, just make them work like Flatpaks or snaps and run a minimal android session on top of virtual hardware and install like normal.
Do you guys not have phones?
Yes, but we despise the companies behind them. Valve is still in good graces after all this time.
Hm, maybe the reference was not clear or maybe it was and we're stuck in layers of implied references:
Ohh, wow, what a reference!
I have a dumb flip phone. I would love to have a smart phone that wants to sell me games rather than spy on me.
Edit: I could play the hell out of Dispatch on this bitch.
G*mers will buy anything if it has their favourite monopoly logo on it.
Make it easily repairable like the Fairphone and then I'll be interested
Gaming on a phone is an abomination. There are many fun time wasters but I want a phone that does less, not more. Internet, Camera, GPS, done.
Valve: “there are things phones are good at. There are things phones are bad at. And there theres the failed attempts to blur the lines. We here at valve have watched others spin their wheels stuck in the mud with their brilliant efforts to make terrible ideas work. We have a different idea….
What about a phone that just does phone things and when it needs heavier lifting, it doesn’t rape your battery or wallet to get it done? Instead, it seamlessly reaches out to your already powerful gaming rig at home? You install an app on our phone, and that tells your pc at home to install the same app automatically. Now when you tap that icon on the Home Screen, your phone taps into the massive power and connivence of an already working rig at home and streams it to your device!
We are compatible with backbone, Xbox and PlayStation, and of course steam machine controllers.
We here at valve don’t see the merit of spending tons of money marketing a compromise. Sell it once. Do it right. If we do the damn job right, you’ll come back for more. No abusive lock ins.
We call it the steam whistle. Small, portable, cheap, but everyone will notice it.”
Tell me Valve can’t market that.
The market for a setup like that would be pretty small. The average person just has a craptop that isn't switched on most of the time. Many don't even bother with that.
if steam made a phone it wouldn't be
Isn't Steam Frame run in SteamOS(which is linux based) made for ARM chip?
While there likely won't be a steam phone, it technically exists as of now.
Not sure I follow... A steam frame isn't a phone. It can't make or receive phone calls
What the other comment said. Since Valve is already half way there with their Steam Frame version of SteamOS(which run on ARM architecture, where phone and tablet also use) and Linux phone iirc do exists, it's only a matter on how much futher Valve wanna go. So as of now they "technically" already have half a steam phone.
I think what they meant is that the technology exists since steam frame is an ARM based device it's just a matter of running it on different hardware and adding firmware support for things like phone calls and touch screens.
Would be crazy if it was also running steamos (arch)
Yes please.
Valve should release a phone if they get into the mobile gaming industry of course steam isn't based around that, but it would be nice if valve at least officially port their games to there...
No, but since the frame is arm based, a phone with clip on controller bits like the switch that could also play my steam games is absolutely something I would throw money at.