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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The shitstain had the FBI redact his name. It's going to be pages and pages of black marks, and one Bubba Clinton.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

I am afraid the majority of the real files are just TBs of CSAM. How does anyone ensure that gets prosecuted?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

You're assuming a level of competency that the current FBI and DOJ have not demonstrated they possess.

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 40 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

A month ago Patel and Bondi were saying there was no files, so they lied underoath. But, obviously there's no accountability under this administration.

So, what changed in a month? Everything of substance has been scrubbed from the files. We're not going to get any justice or accountability. Par for the fucking course

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

obviously there’s no accountability under this administration

When was the last administration that experienced accountability? Even Nixon got a pardon

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 79 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

“just 44% of Republicans thought Trump was handling the Epstein situation well.”

Never trust conservatives. Holy shit is this behavior embarrassing to us all.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 35 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I forget the actual numbers, but the rule of thumb is that it would basically take multiple 9-11s during COVID-2-Electric-Boogaloo AND a sex scandal to get a president below (ass pulling) 30%. Which, accounting for a party specific poll, makes that 44% look REALLY bad.

Because anyone who has spent any time in the hell that is dating apps can tell you: Only the nuttiest of nutbars identify as "conservative". The rest of the chuds are "moderate" or "apolitical" because they still want to get their fuck on.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Independent is another tell.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Came here to say this, and I'm not on the dating scene at all, but you see it in just so many other contexts. It became so ridiculous even decades ago, reaching ludicrous speed under donnie. The Professional Left podcast, at least, constantly mocks the notion.

When someone says they are an "independent", I think very few are genuine. I think many of them are just conservatives that are lying, some are possibly Libertarian who are also just lying, some may be very low-info, but thinks this makes them sound S-M-R-T, and then the very last group may possibly be actually independents.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Lots of 'libertarians' are also just republicans with enough self awareness to be embarrassed about admitting it.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Most libertarians are going through a transitory phase in my experience.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

Most "libertarians" I've met will say that both sides suck and then only talk shit about one side. I'm sure you can guess which.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago

It's super annoying, because that term should belong to "if you've got an hour we can grab coffee and I'll explain my politics to you. You don't? Uhh .... 'rather to the left'?", and not "I'm fine with the gays and poors, but I don't know if I'm comfortable with the government helping or protecting them".

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 42 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

After the Senate approved the measure on Tuesday, a senior White House official said Trump will sign the bill when it gets to the White House.

I don’t know what games are suddenly being played but this is sus af

[–] Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

They announced that they are investigating Democrats regarding Epstein.

An investigation can prevent the release of the Epstein files, regardless of whether the president signed the bill or not.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, going to play this as "I was always for releasing them the whole time" but "oh no, the mean DoJ says no one can see anything right now".

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I would totally release my tax returns, but I'm being audited, sorry.

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In BOTH situations, he was legally capable of releasing either any time. He could have released taxes during the audit, he could have declassified Epstein files with a flick of the wrist.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

According to him he can declassify documents just by thinking about it. No wrist flicking required. Of course, that only applies to documents stored in the bathroom on his golf course.

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

Would also require the ability to think...

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 6 points 16 hours ago

I'm okay with them just releasing the parts of the Epstein files that involve Republicans. I mean, I want the full files eventually, but I'm perfectly fine starting with the Republicans.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

A LOT of this narrative reeks of "See, chuck schumer is actually a heroic genius"

But the basic idea is that trump can still pocket veto this. I forget the specifics but essentially it is the idea that he can ignore the bill for 10 days which would expire it and punt it back to the House. And if The House is out of session (which they will be because it is thanksgiving and our politicians would NEVER dare inconvenience themselves for The American People) it basically kills the bill entirely and they have to re-pass it.

By getting it through the Senate ridiculously quickly it makes it MUCH harder to argue that the white house ran out of time. And it does sound like House republicans may have been counting on that since johnson was talking about how the Senate would take forever to pass this.


The other theories I have seen are all based around "investigating the Democrats". Either insist that NO files can be released because they are part of an active investigation or insist the reason it is predominantly republicans and bill clinton is because all the Democrat files had to be held.

Personally? I think both immediately trigger massive leaks because of just how widespread they are and how bipartisan the access has been in the past. And any token sacrificial republicans will IMMEDIATELY narc on everyone else before they can hang themselves in a jail cell.

And if the big beautiful bill ever faces even a chance of consequences for his actions, you can bet that he (and mostly Hilary) would start blabbing about trump sucking him off.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

He can't, because pocket vetos only work if both chambers are adjourned during the 10 day period. Not at recess, adjourned. If he doesn't sign it within 10 days or just becomes law.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] Batmorous@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

They were when a plumber did that. Not the Mario bro though, it was for sure somebody else

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

They didn't try to dodge shit. They just stalled until the FBI could sanitize and re-write them. The Epstein Files Saga will soon be over, and nothing will come of it.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago

Yeah judging by their attitudes on it all the sudden, they got it all covered up and edited.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

On the bright side maybe we won’t be invading one of our southern neighbor countries as a distraction.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, there's no chance we don't go to war with Venezuela. Trump needs an excuse to cancel elections. The CIA already has boots on the ground. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/18/us/politics/trump-covert-action-venezuela.html

It's not actually legal for him to do so, but who's going to stop him?

[–] tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Venezuela also has the largest oil reserves in the world.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Excellent excellent point. There is that as well.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Multiple other governments have the files as well. Even if the copies about to be released are heavily edited there will be plenty of other copies that can refute them.

Now, whether or not anyone will do so is another question.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Really ? is that speculation ? I didn't consider they could have leaked to other nations

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I picked that up from either Amanda Nelson (amandasmildtakes) or Under the Desk News. Can't remember which one and I'm not able to search for a video right now. It was one released either last night or this morning.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 14 hours ago
[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 16 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

But they are scrubbing away all Republicans from the files before releasing.....

I'm sure that's probably the case but also whoever is indicated is basically a witness. Hopefully someone will talk. Hopefully this opens up other evidence from those caught in the net.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

My friend, I've stopped fighting autocorrect ages ago. I can't wait for AI to tell us how the politicians got indicated!

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Indicted. No "a."

It's not a matter of autocorrect when you're spelling another word correctly but the word means something else entirely.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 11 hours ago

I do believe autocorrect looks at phonetic spelling too.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The correction helped me realize what you meant though.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Not me. I thought they meant "indicted," not "indicated." It got more confusing until I realized they spelled it wrong twice. "Endigted" was at least phonetically closer.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I thought they meant ignited.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Welcome to our future, where intent is more important than expression.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I thought they meant imitated.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

Not sure they know what they meant at this point. :)

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Anyone asking donnie about the status of it will now get the "quiet, piggy!" response.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Lol

Strong man authoritarian leader can't offer definitive evidence that he isn't a pedophile

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

Not trying to defend Trump here...just pointing out the error in what you said.

Could you offer definitive evidence that you aren't a pedophile?

That's kinda why we have due process and stuff...it's on the state to offer definitive proof that you are. It's very difficult to definitively prove a negative.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 hours ago

Wait until you learn the US king ha veto power over everything and is immune to the law. Lmao