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[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So why don't they use it to unfuck Windows 11... before I finish my coffee?

[–] UsoSaito@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago

It was the AI that messed it up to begin with lol. Vibe coding has often required coders having to go back and spend even more time fixing it then if they just did it themselves.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

best they can do is put more AI

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I already finished my coffee too. :-/ Though I suppose I could throw on another pot while we wait.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

I've finished several coffees since you posted this.... pretty sure win11 is still fucked

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago

What they forget to mention is that you then spend the rest of the week to fix the bugs it introduced and to explain why your code deleted the production database...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

And it will leave you debugging strange code for two weeks afterward.

[–] llama@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 days ago

Actually it won't be finishing anything because code is disposable now and nobody cares what trivial app somebody can churn out

[–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Writing code is the reward for doing the thinking. If the LLM does it then software engineering is no fun.

It's like painting - once you've finally finished the prep, which is 90% of the effort, actually getting to paint is the reward

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What a great way to frame it, I love this! I typically spend something like 60-80% of time available for a given task thinking through approaches and trade-offs, etc. Usually there comes a point when the way forward becomes clear, even obvious.

After that? Bliss. I'm snapping together a LEGO set I designed, composed of pieces I picked (maybe made one or two new ones!), and luxuriating in how it all feels, when put together.

[–] kyonshi@piefed.social 17 points 6 days ago

Because you won't have time to drink that coffee if you put this code into production

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

Love how they're pretending that an LLM is useful for any task that needs precision.

[–] Lyrac@programming.dev 9 points 6 days ago

Big over-promise. We're heavily incentived to use an AI coding agent at work. I try to be optimistic and treat it like a tool to help me do things I already know how to do but a little bit faster. It takes multiple iterations of "no, this still isn't working" to get something that I can touch up and push for review. The idea that I can prompt it and then step away for ten minutes to make coffee and return to an app is ludicrous.

Maybe one day that will be possible. Then I'll find a new job I guess

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These fuckers at MicroShit have lost all the ability needed to read a room.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

When do you reckon they could last do that?

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe after windows 8? Last time I can remember.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

I'd say 97 was the last time.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's great at bullshitting that it did what you wanted, even if it obviously didn't, which I guess is what counts for results at Microsoft.

It would be much better if they treated it as the slightly better (yeah, I said it) auto complete that it is instead of the beginning of fucking sky net -- which was supposed to be a bad thing anyway, remember?

But that wouldn't move the needle on all of the share prices, so instead we have to pretend it can do people's jobs when it fucking obviously cannot.

So, instead they keep pushing this AI (auto-complete insanity), and keep burning more and more cash. Imagine if we just put a portion of these billions (approaching trillions) into anything that could actually help anyone. Or don't, because it's pretty fucking depressing to think about.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean it gets there in the end but it's often three of four prompts before it provides working code for a relatively simple powershell script. Can't imagine that it scales to complex code that well at the moment, but then again I'm not a coder.

[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

You’re pretty much spot on

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ah get outta here! Next time they’ll say that co pilot also chooses my furry porn and controls my buttplug while it codes for me.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Oh wow I didn't know about that butt plug thing. I'm playing in a chess tournament soon so that could come in handy

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Does its ai learn from people using vscode?

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I think I keep having the same deja vu for at least three years now. That, or these execs are fucking liars telling the same lie for the past 3 years.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 8 points 6 days ago

A more appropriate line would be that Copilot can shit out code faster than you can pinch off your own loaf.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

By the headline statement, that it should be complete and works 100%. Big doubt.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No, just complete. Whatever the dude does may have nothing to do with what you needed it to do, but it will be "done"

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

My problem is that the dev and stage environments are giving me 502 gateway errors when hitting only certain api endpoints from the app gateway. My real problem is devops aren't answering my support tickets and telling me which terraform var file I gotta muck with and tell me what to fix on it. I'm sure you'll be fixed soon though right copilot?

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago

I would rather paint a portrait by myself, spending the time to do it, rather than asking some computer prompt to spit me out a picture. Same logic applies with coding for me.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

If thats what they are aiming at, I feel like their AI is actually suppose to be the pilot and the user the copilot

The only time I use copilot is when I am bored at work and I make jokes with it.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I would like to someday use AI to remaster Stars!, Magic Carpet, and Judgment Rites. However, it won't be through co-pilot, because I fundamentally don't trust Microsoft.

In any case, I think genuine "hands off" development from an AI would be at least a decade off. Partially just for it to have the ability, but also for local hardware to support it. (I only use local AI, but a 100b like GLM is slow as heck on my gaming rig.)

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

My boss literally every day: wow look at this new ai tool I just found!

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I can drink coffee pretty slow, but I don't think I can drink it that slow

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

I read “users respond with mercyless trolling” in the teaser, I have to open the article.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Technically true, but nobody said the code will be at all functional. I'm pretty sure I can finish about 800000 coffees before Copilot generates anything usable that is longer than 3 lines.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

In my experience, which consists of using copilot for about ten minutes, literally every single suggestion is wrong, and if you're not careful it'll insert the shitty code and then you have to go back and find out why the code isn't working.

I'd rather have Lizzo shum on my face than use copilot

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

Good thing finishing your coffee is many sips. Because Copilot certainly doesn't feel fast. It often feels so slow you wonder whether waiting is worth it.

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