If chat control was supposed to save the children then why is this still alive?
It was never about the children
this post was submitted on 25 Nov 2025
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Okay, I'm not in pro, nor opposed to fake nudes. But let's think about why they exist. We want to see people naked having sex. Its a type of entertainment and the performers are real live actors. That industry will collapse as we know it if AI takes over. Either that or Nabisco will add sex pictures on their chocolate wrappers because porn stars will just be another naked person having sex for a few bucks.
I for one really would like normal people having sex for my entertainment. If we let AI get the best of ourselves, porn will be, one day soon, gone forever! Muscle guys will forget how to pose together with another five guys so we can still see their penises going in and out of the actresses vagina. The actresses will not known how to prepare mentally and physically to be stretched in such an extreme way. That requires years of practice. I'm only half joking, it definitely takes some time to stretch out the various orifices in such a way.
I propose to only watch non-AI porn, because that's the only way to preserve our culture. That's the only way to keep the actors practicing their moves, the actresses practicing their orgasms and the talent acquisition team hard at work! They need to keep those audition couches filled and warm! And what about the support teams?
The camera guys need to remember the traditional ways of getting out of the ways of the balls swinging. The make-up girls, the fluffers, the microphone guy, the language translation teams and the special effects guy all need jobs! I mean...waka waka waka, 70's style music doesn't write itself! And the cleanup crue? They need the job! And they are ready with brushes, brooms, spatula, water buckets, stain removers, etc. And the furniture guys? Selling the odd couch or bed at consignment. Same for the dressing teams.
Its an industry we must keep supporting. Porn is us, porn is human. Thank you!
I'll take my check when you guys are done fondling each other.
That was great, thanks.
It does make me wonder if the traditional criticism of porn will go away with AI porn taking over.
It'll be like having a nack for old art forms...and so we went to the theater and watched them do 7 different classical porn positions... There was doggie, reverse cow girl, spitroast. It looked so real! It was a great play!
This new tech means we need to get over nudity and what even is real vs fake in all media. Causing harm due to bodies, let alone fake ones is a societal and cultural failure.
This is why futurama and starship troopers both have mixed showers
No, Fry, you're just in the women's shower.
I fully understand this girl and I wish her well but this is a genie that left a bottle that it will never again get back in to, I'm afraid
We can push this so far underground that the only people who use this are 4chan creeps on the dark web, we cant destroy AI but we can push it to the fringes
It's like cleaning: You'll never get your space 100% spotless, and trying it will yield diminishing returns. Thus, the aim is to do "good enough" for the given context (an operating theatre may have higher standards than a storage room in your basement, for instance).
Likewise, pushing harmful things to the fringes has to be "good enough".
Push it on to credit card processors, webhost operators, domain registrars etc proceeds of crime.
Edit: they are getting money from somewhere to run the computers these models run on.
I don’t want credit card processor being the judge of what I can spend my money on or domain registrars being the judge of what websites I can visit.
The person who did a crime should be taken to court and all the intermediaries should have the excuse of being neutral.
There is no way back on that.
I can run these models on my local machine. It's not even a complex model.
This lawsuit is targeting the profiteers because that's the only reasonable recourse for an individual.
The criminal side of things is something a prosecutor needs to handle. Making this a priority becomes a political situation because it requires specific resources.
Maybe we need to start pointing out it didn't make people naked, it just fits a naked body it saw in training under the person's head. It's Photoshop but faster.
Not exactly. Head swaps have been a thing for a while.
These models match the body shape. They are essentially peeling back the layers of clothing. The thinner those layers the more accurate it can be.
Right, and the people disseminating and hosting the tools tailored to criminal harassment should be held accountable, and the people hosting the resulting images. All of these people have their own revenue that can and should be disrupted.
they’re not really tailored to that… also, it wasn’t hard to photoshop naked pictures that long ago.
but now these “tools” are neural net models… there are thousands of them hosted on dozens of source code repositories… and like op said, you can run it on any high end gaming gpu.
you can’t outlaw source code like that.
you could sue this one app maker and try to require that they prove consent and detect underage photos… totally a good idea, but it would do little to stop it…
they’ll just use a different app
i think they could prosecute the other people making and distributing the pictures though.
I can easily get a rock from the woods, but if I use one to break someone's fingers, I should be prosecuted.
Except yeah, in this case we should go after the entire chain: AI trainers, hosters, users and their supplementary industries.
not trainers…
people who host services that advertise “make any photo naked!” and have little to no safeguards against non-consensual or underage images, yes….
i mean, if they train the model ON child porn, then yes… but otherwise it’s not the model trainer’s fault.
Billions of dollars poured into AI for... Nudes. The stupidity of humanity has no boundaries...
Techbros trying desperately to solve the very real problem of them not getting any through removing that little obstacle in their way: consent.
One of the first pieces of recorded video was porn. New same as the old.
I'm fairly certain that one was consensul though.
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There ought to be a legal fund for these deepfake lawsuits so we can sue every one of these scummy companies out of existence. I'd donate to it.
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