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[–] macncheese@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (3 children)

California is contracting its own insulin supply and it'll be available for $11 a pen starting Jan 1, 2026. I know not every state can or are willing to do this but just throwing out some examples and hopefully optimism to somehow fight the American decline from within it. We're in a unique position as our state economy is larger than most countries but I am hopeful we will throw our weight around to counter the bs. https://www.chhs.ca.gov/blog/2025/10/17/governor-newsom-announces-affordable-calrx-insulin-11-a-pen-will-soon-be-available-for-purchase/

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems like something other states should get in on. Now that the program is established seems like it would not be as hard to pay into it and get a share of the product.

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[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I know not every state can or are willing to do this

this kind of thing scales well, i see no reason why after california has it set up, other states couldn't get insulin from them, or chip in

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[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

contracting is an interesting choice of word since it could mean decreasing

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[–] bonenode@piefed.social 24 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Why can't Americans mail order it from Canada? Is the US going to tax the crap out of it when it crosses the border?

[–] RabbleRebel@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I believe there are some restrictions on mailing insulin across the border due to regulations and customs laws. However, there might be ways around it if you're willing to do a little research and possibly pay extra fees.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

couple of reddit threads suggest that this is something you can do, but you have to be evasive around american border guard later if you go in person

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

people have been crossing to canada for cheap insulin drugs, the same one made by the trioply insulin companies via driving. other healthcare options, like dental work or medical procedures, they will be seeking places like thailand, mexico, india(the cities that cater to medical tourism)

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 6 points 1 day ago

These god damn foreigners crossing the border to leech of developed countries. They really need to put that wall up.

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[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://fourthievesvinegar.org/

It is not a solution, but maybe an alternative to death…

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[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah, just dismantle the state and give it to private companies... What could go wrong?

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (20 children)

I wonder if all the sane Americans did a mass exodus to Canada, Europe, UK, Australia etc, what effect that would have

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of us would need financial sponsorship. So there'd be a literal financial drain on those economies.

I still would like to sign up.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Not if you stayed, then it’s an investment. Money doesn’t just disappear when goes to poor people, they use it to buy things like food and stuff. It would only be a financial drain if you were sending that money back home.

The North American mind cannot comprehend the benefits of supporting the poor.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

UBI should be ubiquitous.

UBI = Universal Basic Income

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Perhaps strain would be a better word than drain - it would still be a short-mid term financial burden to take even a tiny fraction of the sane population from the US, it's a big country. Sure would be nice if it could be arranged though...

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Have you looked into what it takes to get a permanent visa to one of those countries? It’s not easy.

[–] Master@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

Its prohibitively impossible.

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 42 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Naive question from a european: Aren't there companies on the market who can offer a cheaper price and therefore beat greedy competitors?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

That's certainly how capitalism is marketed, isn't it?

[–] Soulg@ani.social 20 points 1 day ago

Correct, but when it's already been established that people will pay those prices, they keep them high. So instead of going from $800 to $5 out of the goodness of their hearts, they go from $800 to $650 (number made up) to get more business but still make massive profits.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You'd THINK capitalism would cause that to happen, wouldn't you?

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn't work when people don't get to choose not to take it when it gets too expensive! That thing that capitalists always forget about: necessities.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every time someone talks about you being supposedly free to choose where to work they should get instant diarrhea. Let alone medicine of course, that's a hard dependence.

Nobody is truly free without proper UBI and free healthcare and good public transport. Only then true freedom can exist.

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[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A lot of the benefits people associate with capitalism require a free market. The US problem is that the megacorps have gotten sufficiently powerful to abolish that free market through regularory (and legal) capture, enabling entrenched monopolies.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Soo why sell the patent for $1 and have it be potentially exploited when you could hold onto it and licence use for free?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

IIRC the insulin being sold now is manufactured differently and the patents are completely different anyway

But overall your point is good

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It is different, but it's still incredibly cheap to make, $4 a vial, so it costing in the hundreds is just antihuman...

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not anti human, the rest of us get it just fine. It's specifically anti-american

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 day ago (40 children)

Americans suffer from Stockholm syndrome

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[–] b0ber@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

There's no business in curing diseases. The whole pharma is mostly a "subscription" model.

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