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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 60 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

There's a reason most of Eastern Europe hate Russia so much. They kept armies on our territories after WW2 and made sure Communist puppet governments were installed. Their armies and puppet governments then engaged in bloody removal of any opposition. I literally knew people in my village who were put in Siberian gulags and came back scarred. People that came back after the war were arrested by the new puppet regime and put into prison at home were they were tortured and killed. I visited some of those prisons after they were turned into museums and they are ghastly. They set up vast secret police networks with incentives for people to turn in their friends and neighbors. Everyone felt unsafe and you couldn't trust anyone.

There were rebels and freedom fighters that went into hiding and attacked the new regime. A lot of them waited for the Allies to come liberate the country. Most of them died without even finding out that Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin split Eastern Europe on a piece of napkin at the Yalta conference.

[–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you ask tankies they'll just tell you your friends were bourgeoisie and deserved to be put in camps for not being socialist enough...

For nuance's sake - there are still older generation folk that are vehemently pro-russia but they usually don't espouse socialist values but more nationalistic, Russian imperial interests and general anti-progressiveness as a supposed counter to US influence.

From what I've gathered it boils down to yearning for a simpler past when food was local and better, mixed with some nostalgia for their youth, as well as a healthy dose of convenient memory loss of the surveillance state and atrocities of the regime.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

My great-granpa was a poor peasant that could barely read and write and so were the other people from our village. He was conscripted into the army, didn't really have a choice.

I also remember talking to an old lady that was 10 year old when she witnessed the Red Army gather all the Germans in her village, make them dig a pit and then shoot them so they fell into the pits as they died.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago

Everything I Don't Like Is Bourgeoisie

"This engine is bourgeoisie"

XD

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure that if we keep following exactly the same playbook it'll all work out next time, though. One more revolution, bro. One more revolution and it'll fix everything.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

One of the few eastern blocks that love russia still is east germany. But that also got ruled for 50 years like stalins wet dream. Cult of personality and indoctrination from birth.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 55 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The PEOPLE'S Imperialism!

[Invades Poland and the Baltics with the Nazis, annexes Karelia, overthrows socialist governments in Hungary and Czechoslovakia]

Lord. How fucked international politics are.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also, most of the communists believed in international socialism from the start, that they will all unite against capitalist countries. Only to start fighting between each other later.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago

Khrushchev "Stalin was bad actually"

Mao: "REVISIONIST"

[–] jafra@slrpnk.net -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is not so much difference between soviets and democrats these days anymore. Different names, both have their cruelties and oppression.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

Just FYI, this conversation isn't about the US. Also, that comparison is fucked in so many ways.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Brace yourself, the .ml revisionist history is incoming.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 weeks ago

Thats why i call it the russian red empire. And see it as just a continuation of the empire just with blood red paint.

Its really sad that russian culture never was able to develope a sense for democracy. And has corruption embedded in its culture :( If you dont steal from your workplace you are the one not to be trusted...

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Can't wait for these current super massive countries to be broken up into smaller nations so there are no actual super powers left and everyone has to abide by international laws or be cast away into stone age.

Probably won't happen or not in my lifetime but one can dream.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

We're doing our part here in America, but I haven't heard anything about Chinese or Indian instability.