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Biggest WTF news I've read today. I'm not a web dev so this doesn't affect me, but this is bizarre.

We get a closer first look at what's around the corner for AI coding tools, and make Bun better for it

This incredibly popular tool is now going to merge with an AI company and shift gears to be turned into some forced AI hype machine. Yipee! Exactly what all the devs were hoping for! /s

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[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

> Uses JavaScript in 2025.

> Complains about enshittification.

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fuck else am I supposed to make websites with, rust compiled to WASM?

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s my opinion that the modern web is massively enshittified, and was so long before that term came into play.

Too much focus on flashy (and often obstructive) presentation, constant reinvention of the wheel, and no regard for the actual information being delivered.

I mean, you mention “semantic markup” to your average web developer and they just stare at you blankly. They’re like the seagulls from Finding Nemo: DIV? DIV! DIV!

Useful information structures? Meaningful metadata? Consistent patterns? Forget about it.

HTML and JavaScript are part of the problem. They provide too much freedom and not nearly enough structure or guidance.

And even if you put all that aside, JavaScript is an abomination that is entirely unsuited to the purpose it’s being used for. Ask any JS developer. Or look at how many ridiculous frameworks have been slapped over the top of it in a vain attempt to address its inadequacies.

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Ok that’s great but I need to eat

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey! Sometimes it mostly works, and that's all I can reasonably ask for anymore.

[–] DoctorPress@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is only used because it is the only available option on web. Don't bitch me about webassembly when it is missing half of the api and doubles up page load time.

[–] aichan@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

WASM is that much slower? I get that needing a f*** Js wrapper to be able to use the DOM cannot be good, but is there really that much of a difference?

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, worst case scenario someone can fork it.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] QWho@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Maybe, with 'AI agents', code can, for the first time in history, fork itself.

[–] clif@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Damn it. I've been following bun for a long time and using it casually... Guess it's good I didn't get too far into it

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have officially lost the plot on what's happening here.

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[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

As a regular joe on the web, it doesn't affect me directly, yet. However, I foresee more slop sites getting put out there in as the Execucult's naked desire to worship and exalt the thing they are desperately trying to make fetch: AI. This year is so fucking weird with all the AI glazing and executives trying to desperately will AI into a moneymaking thing. Spoiler Alert: It's probably going to continue hemorrhaging money as most people can't be arsed to use it nor do they want products with it crammed in.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In fairness, Anthropic needed some way to bundle up to stay warm in the upcoming AI winter..,

[–] itkovian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I doubt it's going to be enough.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 3 points 1 day ago

Ah fuck, o7 bun. It was a pretty nice runtime, Deno it is now I guess.

I'm so glad I don't have to use JS

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Every Silicon Valley company has to deal with this on a weekly basis.

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