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"No, I haven't sat down to play the games," said Walton Goggins, who plays pre-war movie star Cooper Howard and his post-war counterpart The Ghoul. "And I won't. I won't. I won't play the games. I'm not interested."

The reason is actually pretty simple: Goggins doesn't want to think of the world or the characters of Fallout as elements of a game.

"All of a sudden, I'm looking at this world from a very different perspective, and as something on a screen in which I am an avatar in. I don't believe that I'm an avatar. I believe The Ghoul exists in the world. I believe that Cooper Howard exists in the world." he said.

"The best way that I can serve this world and serve the fans of this game, I think, is to go to work every single day and believe the circumstances that I'm presented with," Goggins said.

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[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

This thread is awful quality for this community, but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised considering the article that started it is PC Gamer ragebait. Gamers are always looking for their next moment to rise up.

[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Makes sense to me. The Ghoul is an original character, and Goggins doesn't need to know a lot about the setting or source material.

[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Was Cooper Howard a character in the games or was the entire role written for this show?

[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago

If it was a character from one of the games, it would be so minor that I missed it. I think that character was created for the TV series.

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 hours ago

He'd be perfect for the writer's room

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 5 hours ago

Not even just to see if the games are fun? Like, he doesn't need to take inspiration for his character from it, but if he is interested in playing video games for fun outside of relating to his acting roles, why not give them a shot?

If he said "I just have no intetest in playing video games" I'd have no follow-up questions about it.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I'm totally cool with this. He's not involved in the creative direction. He's just a damn good actor, he doesn't need to understand the whole feral, or glowing one, or whatever. Let the writers write and actors act and ffs keep the executive away from both!!!

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 69 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Makes perfect sense from the perspective of an actor.

They want their performance to come naturally and with the direction of the writers/directors.

Playing the games can make an actor subconsciously act how they think would fit the games rather than how would fit their specific character.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 hours ago

I was going to make this it's own comment, but it fits well as a reply here.

I don't agree with this. I don't think he needs to play them, but the argument doesn't make sense. Would he say the same if it were a movie? I'm willing to bet not. He just doesn't want to play the games, and that's fine. The bullshit excuse of "not wanting to believe the world" is stupid. If you're making a movie set in a larger cinematic universe you don't get to act noble about refusing to engage in the rest of the media. It being a video game doesn't change anything.

[–] SGG@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Understandable, but he might never know the glory that is fisto, which makes me sad.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I'm sure, if he goes to them, convention goers are more than happy to let him know.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 57 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, it’s not like he’s the writer lol

Doesn’t seem like an issue to me

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 13 hours ago

He finds it to be an issue subjectively for him so since he’s doing the acting, I’d say he probably knows what’s best for himself as an actor.

[–] kaidenshi@lemmy.world 81 points 14 hours ago (23 children)

Good for him. Actors who want to embrace their character and the world they are portrayed in shouldn’t feel pressured to consume the source material, whether that’s a video game series or a book, especially when the show or movie could wildly diverge from the source.

[–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 77 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Counterpoint, Henry Cavill in The Witcher. Though he left once they started diverging from the source because he knew that it would make the show subpar. And it did.

Knowing the source material can help actors understand more nuance of their character and the world the show takes place in.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Pointercount, the lore in Fallout is grossly inconsistent which is not the case for The Witcher.

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 hours ago

The lore in Fallout is grossly inconsistent because of a lack of Henry Cavills working at Bethesda.

There's still a chance to retcon stupid shit. I really, really would prefer that outcome to "eh the lore in this RPG series doesn't matter that much.

[–] jrbaconcheese@yall.theatl.social 61 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Counter-counter: Henry Cavill was playing the Witcher, the central character in the lore. Walter Goggins is playing someone not in the original lore.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The word you are looking for is pointercount. Note somewhat NSFW for language.

https://youtu.be/-sVlZ_SaKnk

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 12 hours ago

There’s a difference in knowing the source material and being a fan/playing the games.

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[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 14 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Sure, but if everyone later complains that the show was too different from the source material, they'll look back to things like this.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Fallout has the most inconsistent lore of almost any IP

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago

Fair point, not exactly the ideal ip for "lore accuracy"

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Is he saying “this is a fallout game you don’t get to play”? Instead of making this into a game, it became a tv show?

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Click bait article titles are one of the main reasons for the failure of our society.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago

I didn't even think it was that click baity. My initial knee jerk reaction was "ok, cool. It's not like they are making a new Vegas show. It's a new storyline with cameos."

But then I see op responding in the comments, and it's clear I am not the target audience for this article despite being a huge fan of both the show and game.

[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 2 points 8 hours ago

Disturbing yet intriguing that his face looks like an anthropomorphic Jason mask.

[–] halfsalesman@piefed.social 11 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

If he is dedicated to the world and his character, that's sufficient. Hes a fantastic actor. buuuut...

I would suspect that him playing the games would not make him "think of the world or the characters of Fallout as elements of a game." but I'm not Walter Goggins. Realistically, hes just not into video games with major story campaigns and doesn't understand they're just a different form of story telling media. He's thinking of video games as exclusively as an avenue of competition, mastery, or challenge.

So I think hes wrong, but I don't know that it matters that materially.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 2 points 5 hours ago

I was looking for this comment. 100% agree. It's fine if he doesn't want to play the games but his reasoning doesn't make sense.

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[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not like his character has a special meta understanding of the fallout games or universe

He’s acting the character like he’s a professional actor because he is and a good one too

[–] marx@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago

Might be one of the best actors alive tbh. He was ridiculously good as Boyd Crowder.

[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago
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