Use LibreWolf or WaterFox and ironfox for android
this post was submitted on 24 Dec 2025
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sadly, Floorp is going AI browser. I mean, "choice" to pick the bits of rat poop out browser.
Zen is AI free, at least so far.
I think I already said this but you're not making me use something called "Floorp" even if it's the last piece of software in the world. Just come on.
I used Floorp for a while. (The search engine that dominated the industry was named for a child's nonsense-babble word for 10^100; nobody has a leg to stand on here.) It had a rare but persistent (and thus difficult to diagnose) problem of crashing my laptop hard when opening a private-mode window. Also, they're planning to incorporate AI on an "opt-in" basis instead of rejecting it on moral grounds.
So thats a no on "Floorp" then. Good
The search engine that dominated the industry was named for a child’s nonsense-babble word for 10^100;
And how did that work out in the long term? There were warning signs!
Librewolf or Waterfox.
Orion will also be getting a Linux version.
if you’re here to recommend ladybird, tell us why you’re doing advocacy for that trash fire in spite of the well-sourced, ah, downsides pointed out in article and video linked from the OP.
same for brave. I don’t give a fuck if privacyguides told you it was the goodest browser.
if you’re here to advocate for ladybird or brave and haven’t read the article in the OP, fuck off. don’t come here pretending to discuss something you haven’t read.
important addendum: your reason for advocating for shit browsers owned by terrible people will be read out loud in the clown voice it deserves
On the subject of Brave:
https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/ it really has a little bit to many controversies. (And the list is downplaying some of it, the wikipedia clone added wasn't just some random one, it is was the one created by the alt right, neo-nazi Vox Day. Addition of which by the CEO should be enough to not want to use the browser at all).
I did like the part where the orcs attacked the Kremlin, though
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Is Vivaldi still good?
The least-worst of the Chrome reskins is Vivaldi, which has no AI. It has its own adblocker, but it’s not as good a blocker as FIrefox with uBlock Origin. And Vivaldi’s not open source. But they’re relatively non-evil.
The era of useful Silicon Valley Non-Profits seems to be fizzling out. I wonder how long Signal is going to hold out...
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I jumped ship to Librewolf a year and a half ago (after seeing Mozilla steal people's data and sell it to advertisers), and I'm pretty fucking thankful for that. For anyone looking to leave Mozilla to rot, I highly recommend it.
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