Because we live in a society of disingenuous assholes. The end.
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it's less important for the far right who currently holds control to do things than it is to be seen as doing things. i have an ur-conspiracy theory that every outlandish conspiracy theory is a distraction from a believable conspiracy. this does a few things:
- makes people who talk about conspiracies sound like nuts
- creates a legion of true believers who will dismiss the true conspiracies as lies
- normalizes the audacity of the worst of the conspiracy theories so that when someone starts conducting the framework for the false conspiracy everyone just kinda rolls with it
chemtrails are, ultimately, a distraction from that what's poisoning our air and water isn't additives in jet exhaust, but instead the byproducts of burning fossil fuels like jet fuel. by addressing chemtrails without addressing fossil fuels, the ruling class performed a bit of trickery. for the people who believe in chemtrails and are worried about the poisoning of our air and water, this is now a solved problem. for the people who aren't keyed in hardly at all, this seems like a compromise between the right and the left, and like some progress is being made to protect our natural habitats.
if we want to survive our most powerful weapon is to continue speaking truth into the world
Your theory is completely provable. Remember how loud the pizza-gate nut jobs were? And now that some of the Epstein documents are starting to come out, it's all crickets.
for sure. i didn't come about this theory with zero thought haha. see also how many people will tell you the world is controlled by a secret cabal of yiddish speaking aliens manipulating lizard people billionaires and then the panama papers come out and NOTHING
I’ve peeped 8chan a couple times over the last year and the conspirators are still conspiracying re Epstein but the mainstream right has abandoned them because it’s not politically convenient to bring raging right wing antisemitism into the narrative right now. I learned a new slur every time I visited.
I would like to think that speaking the truth is the solution but it only works with those who actually have the capacity to think and reason. In contrast, big money has the luxury of buying and promoting the media view points that they want us to believe. Most people take the easy route that doesn't involve the work of thinking. Discerning truth is work - believing bullshit is the easy route.
It has been my experience that both those on the left, and right, fall for the "chemtrail" crap.
As climate change kills folks off, some will survive by learning.
When people begin to starve or become homeless they will be forced to confront survival rather than conspiracy nonsense.
Several weeks ago I overheard two of my neighbors making small talk about the weather, and how it would be perfect if it weren't for all those gosh-darned chemtrails everywhere.
That is the view of reality that is guiding public policy today.
God isn't real either, but politicians keep passing laws to force their delusions onto others.
The same reason there's tariffs on penguins.
Because they're fucking stupid
Chemtrails; now that's an ancient conspiracy theory that I didn't expect to see making a comeback. Can't wait to see laws against GMOs. /s
Good news: We should see fewer CONtrails soon; https://nebula.tv/videos/simonclark-how-airlines-can-halve-their-climate-impact (or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoOVqQ5sa08 )
We COULD see fewer contrails.
It require voting for leaders and lawmakers who will give airlines insentives to reduce their environmental impact. It could be regulation, taxes, tax breaks, wharever works best to reduce harm from aviation.
I remember the video saying that the airline they engaged with for the study and one other airline were already implementing the changes voluntarily.
While I agree that the right leaders and policies continue to be important, even on this very specific issue, I believe we'll see an improvement without another round of voting.
Because everyone in that government is a moron.
Aren't contrails like, really bad for climate? And it would be really easy to divert some routes to shave off a significant part of contrail-caused warming?
You've got it backwards. Contrails have a very minor cooling effect caused by reflecting incoming sunlight. It's just small in relation to the warming caused by planes burning fuel.
Yes. Persistent contrails - i.e. aviation-induced cirrus clouds which spread in supersaturated air layers - are indeed bad for the climate, but often their effect is ignored as hard to quantify, while the simpler small effect of short-lived contrails is conveniently cited instead.
Also, while all high clouds have a warming effect by reflecting infra-red radiation back to earth, there can also be a cooling effect due to reflecting solar radiation, which is greater when the angle of the sun is low. So the net effect is warming in the middle of the day and at night, but cooling in morning and evening.
Thanks for the insightful response, as with most things, there's nuance missing from the conversation
Yes. Kinda, just a little regulation could reduce them a lot.
But here's the thing. Congress does not give a shit about the climate. They will never pass anything like you're suggesting because they're for sale. Only a major structural change that eliminates coercion/bribery from regulatory votes will work.
Congress as we know it fighting climate change is about as realistic as unicorns and Bigfoot.
Good. Next we need to get laws passed banning big pharma from putting 5G chips in vaccines.
Then we can pass a law banning autism in vaccines.
Or just ban vaccines. I don't know, I'm not a doctor. Whatever Dr Oz and RFK Jr says.
NoFX nailed it with Idiots Are Taking Over
I mean, unicorn is the official animal of Scotland, so can we really rule them out?
They're preemptive, CYA kinds of laws.
Like the law against whale hunting in Utah.
It all seems harmless until some nutbar prosecutor drags you to court in Provo on charges of whale poaching (or more likely sues your airline for making chemtrails).
So they're banning physics?
Because they can go to their constituents and say "these are our accomplishments, vote for us" and they will vote for them.
Their constituents don't vote for them based on accomplishments, they vote based on who they hate.
Politicians pass pointless laws for the same reasons why you invent ridiculous tasks at work. To give the impression that you (or they) are accomplishing something and to get paid.
Except you do it for minimum wage and it directly affects maybe 2 people worldwide. Plus, you're the one paying the politicians' salary.
Be more specific. Don't just use the word "politicians." You're providing cover for them by presenting both sides as the same. At least in today's political landscape, it's only the right that gets caught in these endless fever dreams of imagined threats. It's just one mad thing after another with Republicans, as they actively court the deranged and crazy. Anti-vax, chemtrails, etc. used to be fairly nonpartisan, but the Republican party has completely absorbed the conspiracy theorist crowd from both sides of the political spectrum. Just consider all the fever dreams Republicans have chased even just recently:
- Chem trails
- Vaccine denial
- Blood libel and genocidal fear mongering against trans people
- Immigrants eating domestic pets
- Entire cities delusionally labeled as active war zones.
Don't help Republicans. This isn't a "politician" issue. This is a Republican issue. There is simply nothing comparable on the left to the right's need to endlessly whip up their 5 minutes of hate against the other. Only one side embraces this kind of madness. And by using neutral terms like "politicians," you are ultimately enabling this behavior.
Stop using the word Republican, that was just the larval stage which morphed into its final form: MAGA. This is where the Republican party has been rampaging toward for decades, and they have finally arrived.
The Republican party, and it's purported ideals, is as dead as the Whigs, and should only be referred to in an historical or scholarly context.
Just call them MAGA from now on.
The Republican party, and it’s purported ideals
They haven't operated on ideals since the early 1880s.
It's obvious what's going on here. The majority of Republican leaders, along with a few democrats, are actually aliens from a warmer planet. They're here to prepare Earth for the arrival of their civilization, who has already fled their dying world. They're expecting their arrival in the near future.
The aliens that are already here have infiltrated government, traditional media, and social media organizations around the world and are working to ensure we ignore the science and continue dumping CO2 into the atmosphere. If everything continues "business as usual," then our planet will be nearing perfection by their deadline.
One of the feasible ways we could cool our planet down is by using airplanes to spray aerosolized sulfates into the stratosphere. We've already been accidentally doing this by burning certain fuels. When "we" recently agreed to stop using such fuels, warming accelerated. Some human scientists have noticed this and believe it would be possible to spray the sulfates in the stratosphere where they would be more effective at cooling the planet and less environmentally damaging than emitting from the ground.
That is why they're making a preemptive attack on chemtrails, although there is some internal disagreement among the aliens about whether this is the best course of action. One faction believes it is more straightforward to accelerate warming now, hence outlawing sulfate containing fuels and preemptively banning chemtrails. The other faction reasons it would be more disruptive to actually allow chemtrails for cooling purposes. Their thinking is that they could continue to prevent humans from cutting emissions, but allow the humans to artificially cool the planet. The level of CO2 would continue to increase, and then, for spurious economic or geopolitical reasons, the flights would be stopped and therefore the cooling mask pulled off, resulting in a sudden temperature increase. This could be more disruptive than the straightforward plan since it would be more chaotic.
You might like the movie The Arrival (1996).
I think I saw this on TV when I was a kid. All I gleaned from it was aliens were releasing CO2 and their knees bent the opposite way ours do. Thank you for mentioning the title, I always wanted to see it again.
Somebody's been watching/reading Three-body Problem.
I did enjoy that storyline
I'm bloody psyched for the next season. So sick of having to sit and wait literally multiple years for new seasons of shows these days. I'm literally growing old waiting for second seasons of shit.
Yes, "chem trails" aren't real. But weather modification absolutely is and you can read government pages detailing the programs since the 60's. We ABSOLUTELY have been putting chemicals in the atmosphere to attempt weather alteration.
Whether this is a good or bad thing is not my point. My point is all these bullshit articles attacking a strawman that doesn't exist. These programs do exist. Conflating them with the chemtrail conspiracy is bullshit tho.
Here's a government website detailing Santa Barbara, California's cloud seeding program that has existed since the 80's
Cloud Seeding (Precipitation Enhancement) | Santa Barbara County, CA - https://www.countyofsb.org/2548/Cloud-Seeding-Precipitation-Enhancement
This is what those laws are targeting, not "every planes condensation trail is actually a secret government device spewing mind control chemicals". Stop calling it "chemtrails" when the very real "weather modification" programs are right there.
Cloud seeding using silver nitrate was developed in the 1980s. It is rarely used as the cost is insane (its silver nitrate).
The patent for using silver iodide was made in 1976 by Bernard Vonnegut and Henry Chessin , based upon work that had been going on since 1946 by Vincent Schaefer and Irving Langmuir.
"Common agents include silver iodide, potassium iodide, and dry ice, with hygroscopic materials like table salt gaining popularity due to their ability to attract moisture."
So you're just wrong. Flat out wrong.