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[–] DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago

The widespread idea that peasants could not read is something of a falsehood. While certainly they were not considered "literate" by census at the time that is in part because literate had a different bar to meet. If you could only write whatever language you spoke as daily vernacular and hadn't gone through a six year set of schooling with a specific reading list (known as completing your letters) you were considered illiterate by the measure of the time. It is true that peasants rarely could afford to become "literate" by this definition so if someone says only the clergy and nobility were literate technically speaking they are correct.

However.

Archeological evidence posits that in medieval Europe writing vernacular was a fairly widespread and vital skill though most surviving examples of peasant writing were on birch bark and were missives under 20 words in length. There is evidence that both men and women demonstrated and used the skill primarily for placing orders, sending invitiations, IOUs, sending personal news and messages. The skill was widespread enough that peasants in England and France were written to by clergy and nobility as audiences with things like manuals for peasant farmers and housewives to read.

Sadly because reading vernacular didn't count as a skill unique enough to note in medieval census reporting we have to guess at how much of the population actually could read and only know the skill spread and became more common with time.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Funny... lots of high school kids can't read now, either

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Its intentional

[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The rich are still regretting that they let the peasants have the printing press

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago

Actually there are quite a few archeological findings showing that at least in some cultures, reading and writing was far more common than we think. Cf. e.g. https://ruscorpora.ru/en/corpus/birchbark or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vindolanda_tablets.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People focus on the trouble AI is causing in schools, but the real tragedy is that young people today can live their whole lives without ever composing any type of long form writing. Asking them to is like asking someone to do long division when a calculator is right there.

Some people will still love to write, but for the majority, creative writing is dead as disco.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

any type of long form writing

basically i abhor long form writing too

ok, let me clear up definitions. "long form writing" is when you write a text with the expectation that it's at least, say, 500 words long. intentional verbosity. like they did require us in school. "write at least 500 words about your opinion on laceless shoes"

that's mostly because i have experienced that that kind of requirement leads to bloat, but not to content. I.e. people don't say more simply because they use more words. It is in fact, i believe, the talent of a great writer to express much with little words.


Basically my ideal piece of text looks like this:

3-5 paragraphs, 1-3 lines each, and 1-2 images strewn into it.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

People posting comments on sites like Reddit and Lemmy give me hope that some portion of society still appreciates creative writing.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

And, things were so much better then...

for the filthy rich. Which is one of the reasons they attack our public school systems today.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Few realize that today's youth have such a bad attention span they are by and large functionally illiterate.