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The US has no moral authority to attack Venezuela, regardless of Maduro’s authoritarian nature. Both can be true: Maduro is a dictator who caused immense harm to his people, and US military intervention is an illegal act of aggression that will not resolve the crisis of democracy in Venezuela.

The region’s future must be determined by people themselves, free from the shadow of empire

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[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 73 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"If the US can unilaterally launch military strikes against sovereign nations at a whim, then the entire framework of international law becomes meaningless. This tells every nation that might and power trump legality and sovereignty."

Although I agree that this is bad, it is unsurprising. The states have been devolving towards this for a long time. I'd argue that the patriot act was one of the more audacious steps in this direction. I suppose there were earlier ones, I am not very knowledgeable about this topic

[–] TheDrunkard@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

You're right, despite your confessed ignorance.

The US has been doing it since the beginning, including the invasion of Quebec in 1775. The only difference now is that everything gets broadcast, especially on social media.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump just sent a very dangerous message to ~~Latin America~~ the world

[–] TheDrunkard@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He just said to China, go ahead and invade Taiwan, we aren't going to stop it.

[–] BoJackHorseman@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The entire world is going to turn into 3 or 4 monopolies, just like American corporations

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Central/South America would be well served from establishing something like the EU. The US has too long been able to act with little impunity in their back yard and the world suffers for it.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

The moment they start even trying to organize themselves, the US will bomb them. So many US-backed coups in Latin America, and they still have the audacity of complaining about immigration.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean even if it was, I don't think Mercosur has the teeth to prevent this sorta thing.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm confused about what you think the EU is if you think it has "teeth".

[–] ngdev@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

surely they can do economic sanctions right?

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I'd say it would be perfectly fair if some country wanted to come to the US to kidnap a despotic leader and hold them accountable in an international court of some sort. You know, now that the precedent is set.

[–] FrenchGameDev@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

its not only latin america. i hope we remove all their military bases in europe, ban all air charter from us and let the demographic of a failed state with missmanaged economy do their work.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Europe doesn't have the stones to ask Trump politely to stop, much less anything else on that list of fantasies.

[–] BoJackHorseman@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

You can vote on it right?

Europe is a democracy unlike China.

What's the point of democracy if you can vote only once every 4 years? That's like 15 times in a lifetime.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

All the oil, cocain and rare earth's are mine!

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I got banned on ml instance for saying the exact same thing - both are bad. Apparently, over there they think Maduro is a good guy.

[–] ngdev@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i got banned on ml for saying "rich coming from a tankie lol" on a post about usa being bad for the kidnapping

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

They can't do anything about it. So what's the point?

[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The region’s future must be determined by people themselves, free from the shadow of empire

I have a problem with that line. Maduro has been president of Venezuela since 2013. Just, how long would it take for the people there to free themselves? 50 years? Never?

I mean look at the American people, we're no different. We keep talking about revolution, civil war, assassination. We've only maybe have a couple of near misses, but the rest are just nothingburger after nothingburger. We still willingly wake up, go to work, come back home and repeat everyday while we glue ourselves to the news just getting vicariously pissed off and yet we do dick about it. We just grip onto voting like they're rosary beads in hopes things turn around and only then do we proclaim we've done something, only allowing the villains we've elected previously, to get off scot-free.

And even then, that doesn't promise anyone that we won't stupidly elect another dictator of our own.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just, how long would it take for the people there to free themselves?

However long it takes. Historically a foreign invasion only pushes the timer further back, doubly so when (neo)colonialism is involved.

[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope, can't go with that. That's how they win, is you doing nothing.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Say what you will about Trump but it's a well calculated move.

If democrats step in, he'll accuse them of supporting rigged elections. Meanwhile the hidden lesson in allowing this to happen is that Trump is above the law.

It fits Trump perfectly, and the purpose is of course to get incredibly rich.

[–] BoJackHorseman@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Democrats would have done the same. Obama invaded 8 countries in 2016.

Elections are for entertainment for show for the masses. The people who actually run the Western world are the billionaires and the 3 letter organisations.