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[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 225 points 2 years ago

Organized religion can get fucked along with all these deathmongers using “god” as an excuse to kill or harm others.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 140 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"We all will have to provide answers to what happened on Oct. 7, myself included — but only after the war," said Netanyahu.

So he wants more time for war crimes before anyone charges him with war crimes. And he's referencing biblical prophecy and all but calling it a holy war. The man has lost his mind clearly.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 60 points 2 years ago

He knows he's in the shit. But he's thinking maybe he can quickly arrange cover with the ultra religious, and the longer he stays in office, the more time he has to arrange cover or change the narrative.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The people of Israel and his supporters are on the hook as well.

Never again means never again, for any people.

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[–] Razgriz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I don't understand responses like this.

Them are holy grounds on which israel and palestine stand, for all 3 abrahamic religions. Every one of them has a prophecy for the end of times which great powers that be will try and manifest into reality.

As long as religions exist, and as long as they have followers this orthodox in their "interpretation", that area will remain in turmoil.

How this basic and all encompassing fact is not front and center in every discussion on this situation boggles my mind.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 100 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Defeating Hamas?

A war against Hamas that targets civilians is just going to create more Hamas.

You kill 100 civilians for every 4 Hamas fighters, all you end up with is 10 new Hamas fighters from the relatives of the civilian dead.

He's delusional.

[–] NoSleep@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Thats why I honestly believe that he just wants to genozide all Palestinians and grab the remaining land. Thats the only possible end to this conflict if Israel stays on this path. And it was on this path since 70 years, so why stop now? The colonization of North America had a similiar pattern. Settle deeper and deeper in the territory of the other group and if they attack you, strike back ten times harder. Repeat until they have no suitable land left. It's making me sick that we have to watch this shit in our times and that our politicians allow it or even support it.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Thats why I honestly believe that he just wants to genozide all Palestinians and grab the remaining land.

Anyone who doesn't think this is delusion. The Israeli government never wanted peace

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 14 points 2 years ago

Not if you kill all the civilians too

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[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Delusional. I feel like he doesn’t necessarily care about his own people either, just want to commit genocide and take over land at any cost.

The fact that people still defend this guy makes me perplexed.

[–] runblack@reddthat.com 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

He knows that he'll lose power once that war ends. He will prolong it as long as he can. Of course he doesn't care about the lifes of his own people, never did.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Right-wingers never give a shit about their own people.

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

You can't defeat hamas militarily. They are a terrorist group, they want to be attacked as viciously as possible, because that creates more recruits for them.

Its been proven time and time again and yet every single time these old fucking cranks do not understand that.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Hey, as long as it distracts Israel from his judicial problems and his role in allowing Hamas to rise, it's all good for him.

[–] UnspecificGravity@lemmings.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It is fascinating to me that no one is asking what outcome Hamas was looking for after these attacks. Is no one concerned that Israel is doing EXACTLY what Hamas must have expected them to do? They almost certainly had a plan and doing exactly what the other side expects means your going along with that plan. Hamas had to have known this is what would happen, so this happening is giving them what they wanted: An Israel that is rapidly losing its international mandate while committing atrocities against civilians on center stage in front of the whole world.

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[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

Removing Netanyahoo will make the prophecy of a better society a reality

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

He literally sounds like all those terrorist religious zealots that I was told were such a threat for bringing sharia law to ‘the homeland’ after 9/11. How long will rational thinkers have to suffer under the weight of ignorant frauds like Netanyahu and their magic fan fictions. What a absolute sick joke of an ideology.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 years ago

Great, the fucking crusades are back.

[–] halfempty@kbin.social 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is the kind of deadly nonsense that happens when you have a religious state. US Christian nationalists should take note, though they support Netanyahu for the sole reason that it reinforces their biblical doomsday prophecies of their own.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago

US Christian nationalists should take note

They are well aware.

And it's an outcome they want.

That's how they get Buddy Jesus to come back and punish all the sinners for their pleasure.

Or something like that.

[–] 50gp@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

very dangerous that these kind of totally insane shitheads want access to nukes (plus their counterpart iran)

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the kind of deadly nonsense that happens when you have a religious state.

Israel is not a religious state - it's a white supremacist settler-colonialist project.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I prefer the terms ethno-supremacist & crypto-fascist.

It is also worth noting that Likud was founded by members of Lehi which was a Nationalist Zionist terrorist organization. To say that the current political right in Israel took strategic influences directly from Nazi Germany is in no way hyperbolic as Lehi attempted to align with the Third Reich beginning in the inter-war era as well as during WWII.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I prefer the terms ethno-supremacist & crypto-fascist.

Call them that if you wish... I call them white supremacist because it cuts to the core of what "western civilization" has always really been about - which includes the support they give to their little kapo state in the middle-east.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Religious ethnostates are a threat to world peace.

Anyone who thinks god gave them some land is incapable of rational negotiation about said land.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Netanyahu use "Activate Evangelicals" on Republicans

Its super effective!

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's funny is that saying Isaiah's Prophecy will be fulfilled is completely opposite to Christianity, since Christians believe is already was fulfilled with the birth of Jesus.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bruh you think they've actually read and understood the old testament?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Or the New Testament?

You’re lucky if they’ve looked at the pictures in the “picture book” versions for kids.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

History always fondly remembers the guy who said "God needs us to kill all of those people".

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Biden: "Yep, this is our guy. Full support. Now I'm going to go home and push through KOSA and make anything pro-gay online illegal. What are the democrats going to do? Vote against me? That only help Trump."

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

If Israel's god was real, would it have allowed the October 7 attacks to happen to his chosen people? Of course not.

Every single ethnic cleansing in history is rooted in lies and this one is no different.

[–] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

This guy is no different from the criminals of Daesh.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Basically he means the coming of the Messiah which is funny because

Christians and Muslims believe the anti christ will show up pretending to be the Messiah and lead the Jews astray

Also

In a death that resembles that attributed to Isaiah in Lives of the Prophets, Muslim exegesis recounts that Isaiah was martyred by Israelites by being sawn in two

There's so much religious irony in this statement, I'm sure anyone could find more examples of comedy lol

[–] athos77@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

From what I remember (a very long time ago!), Isaiah is basically We're unjustly oppressed and attacked and things look really bad, but just trust in God and your leaders and your diaspora will come home and everyone will come to your side and your enemies will be defeated and we'll end up rich and in charge.

[–] Kalinus@lemmings.world 9 points 2 years ago

No it won't

[–] Greggo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Glad to see grand delusions being used in critical decision making.

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