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Think of the shareholder value this would create!
I was just thinking that! They're literally giving free money to a private entity!
Seems to be
What cities really need to do is use this for driver behavior around cyclists. Drivers have to maintain safe passing distances, but they often don't. And drivers often drive incredibly aggressively, sometimes deliberately driving cyclists off the road. Cyclists should be able to wear cameras and issue tickets to drivers that violate the law. They should get a portion of the ticket revenue for their trouble.
It can be.
City Council’s Committee on Pedestrian and Traffic Safety on Monday approved a newly revised ordinance that would authorize Chicagoans to use their cellphones to provide recorded evidence of bus, bike lane and crosswalk parking violations.
The local businesses don't like it, but life sucks so meh.
Yeah, except I would make this independent of the police entirely. Let the cyclists sue the drivers even. Police generally don't consider cyclists to be human. They don't charge drivers when they kill cyclists, as cops are all fat and lazy and could never dream of cycling on a city street themselves. They consider drivers humans like themselves and cyclists disgusting poors worthy of violence.
You have to cut police completely out of the loop. They simply do not regard cyclists as human beings. This is just going to end up with a bunch of photos and videos sent to the cops, and the cops stating they simply can't do anything about it, because reasons. The same thing happens when a non-rich person sends cops video of their robbery from their home cameras. Cops only care about oppressing minorities and cracking skulls at protests. That's why people become police officers in the first place. Good people don't become cops.
I'd love to have that in my residential area. Nothing more infuriating than having a car parked across a sidewalk forcing the pedestrian to go into the street to get by.
basically if you take a photo of the violation it will go to the department that issues citations and it will be evaluated to determine if one should be sent. Way more scrutiny than the automated camera ones.
You mean they'll check to see who the car belong to, and if they're one of the people that is above the law.
I would trust the output of an automated system (excluding AI) more than the output of a human, so the difference in scrutiny makes sense. Although I'm not sure how good the automated system is, so I can't say definitively that's the case.
I don't think anything like traffic tickets or such should be 100% automated. I don't mind an automated filtering mechanism but I think every citation should be written out and signed by someone with all the required trainings and such and they should have viewed and verified that in their opinion a violation occured.
Oh for sure needs a human in the loop. I was just thinking of why this system would have more scrutiny by default.
Everytime that cop parks illegally. Every single one.
Yeah, I'm sure officers pay the tickets themselves or the department with their pensions and suuuuurely not the taxpayers.
You ticket who you want, I'll ticket who I think deserves it most.
Neat! Do red light runners next! Also apply this to cops.
Oh man. Was kind of hoping the headline meant they were handing out official ticketing capability to every ordinary person.
Would have loved to see that in action.
If the citizens cannot rely on the government to enforce their laws the citizens will rise up and protect themselves.
Protect yourself from people that didn't make it back to the meter in time to put another coin in? Stay safe, that sounds dangerous! /s
People with good Photoshop skills are about to have a great way to get back to the people they don't like
And get convicted of fraud when they fuck with someone who has a dashcam or similar alibi. Risky game
Calm down, it was primarily a joke comment.
Yeah I know, just don't want people getting ideas
Love it
They should not encourage the busybodies. No one likes those people, going around taking pictures of any infraction and ratting them out. Mind your own fucking business.
We are all treated like we are choosing not to pay, not that we don't have the money. Whether it's someone with a broken down car running to the store to get fluids for their vehicle, or having to unhook their trailer on the side of the road for a short bit of time. Or parking legally and missing the time window where it becomes illegal.
Mind your own Business. Don't rat out your neighbors, at least not without talking to them first if you have a legitimate reason to take issue with their parking.
On the one hand, fuck the police and all that.
On the other, I want people who park in the bike lane to suffer
Yeah there are exceptions I'm sure. Busybodies want all sorts of strangers to suffer for no good reason though. Maybe they are convinced their neighbors are antifa assassins coming to rub them out for their dumbass facebook posts, maybe they think there is a grand conspiracy against them.
Before the internet they were ostracized when they went off the deep end, now they find backup, moral support, and are encouraged by manipulators for all sorts of reasons, and they are encouraged to indulge their paranoia, reinforced in it. On their facebook and nextdoor groups convincing themselves everyone they don't recognize is george soros' henchman canvassing the area to woke bomb it or whatever.
It's not a criminal matter. It's fine to report.
Up voted for the double entendre
Is it? Fine to rat someone out unilaterally because it's not criminal? For one thing, owing money to the city, for non criminal matters like parking tickets, leads to fines being doubled if not paid in a short time period, 10 days usually, less time than many would get a paycheck in. Then if not paid in another period of time, it's often doubled again, and your license is revoked, which will after you pay them off, cost another couple of hundred dollars for a reinstatement fee. You can have your license revoked multiple times, if you owed three tickets, it would require three reinstatement fees to reinstate.
So now it's doubled twice, your license is revoked, and if you don't drive to work anyway, you know, so you can live, they will put out a bench warrant for your arrest. Then, surprise, first contact they grab you and throw you in jail, you might lose your job, they could tow any car you are driving when it happens. Your pet could get sent to the pound and even die from treatment if it's old and special needs.
So now you just ruined someone's life, they lost their car, are hopelessly in debt to the state that leads to larger amounts of fines leveled on them, lost their driver's license, and killed their dog. You think that's ok? Just unilaterally? Because what, there was 2 hour parking and it took them 4 hours? They didn't make it back to feed the meter in time? Because they didn't have enough money to park in a garage and had to use the street for their new job?
You obviously have had a sheltered life, with no idea of the damage you do, the lives you ruin, going about your business as if everyone is treated as you have been, while you open up the working poor to the merciless Tax Farming of Police Departments.
you have invested way too much time in this. fuck cars. bye.
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