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Search results are useless, AI is poisoning Wikipédia. While I do have the patience to read primary sources in my field of study, it becomes a nightmare to repeat this process for every bit of information I want.

I'm almost signing up for Encyclopedia Britannica. I don't know what else to do.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

When I hear news and I'm unsure of the validity of it, I Google and under the news section, if there are multiple articles from various different sources talking about it, I figure it's true

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago

The uncomfortable truth is that we lived through a very unique golden age of veracity. The photograph and later video completely revolutionized and changed the whole idea of what knowledge and verification were. Prior to indisputable photographic evidence, word and reputation carried more weight as often they were the strongest evidence towards the truth. AI has kind of us returned us to that stage, weirdly making the period of veracity we considered permanent instead a comparative blip in human history.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AI is poisoning Wikipédia.

Huh?

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah I don't get that. Wikipedia is a fine source.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wikipedia has an army of human writers that probably don't take too kindly to AI.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's actually about 15 people that mostly maintain it.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Anyone can make edits, but it's mostly done by a handful of people.

This guy for example created 1/3rd of the articles.
https://youtu.be/JhNczOuhxeg

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

That guy has made edits to a third of pages. Minor ones like making sure articles conform to the style guide.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Wikipédia is fighting an ongoing and ever increasing issue of collaborators pushing AI text into articles, which contain false information.

EDIT: Why the downvotes? Your misinformation is not my fault:

1 in 20 new Wikipédia pages contain AI-generated text: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2454256-one-in-20-new-wikipedia-pages-seem-to-be-written-with-the-help-of-ai/

Wikipédia attempts to maintain a task force to clean the articles poisoned by AI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_containing_suspected_AI-generated_texts

AI translations are poisoning non-EN Wikipédia: https://wistkey.medium.com/ai-translations-are-poisoning-wikipedia-and-putting-minority-languages-at-risk-c4539984734c

AI "contributions" are bringing up recycled information and fake sources, and the human verification often fails: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-ai-generated-content-in-wikipedia-a-tale-of-caution

But sure, keep downvoting me and ignoring the issue, geniuses.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And there's corporations pushing agendas into primary sources. And there's lying liars who lie for lying's sake.

If you're going to draw the line at "unassailable truth" then you're doing all the work yourself.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you’re going to draw the line at “unassailable truth” then you’re doing all the work yourself.

and since that's virtually impossible, then perhaps one simply shouldn't trust any news at all.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or anything ever. The present is just a fiction made up to explain the current chemical state of your mind.

Or we could be reasonable. I guess that's a second option.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The present is just a fiction made up to explain the current chemical state of your mind.

We have no free choice. Life has no meaning.

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

really you don't. you read forum posts and try to guess to what degree the information is credible.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

the problem is finding those forum posts

Google doesn't return them anymore. I have much more luck with duckduckgo when I want to find an answer to a specific question

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah, forum posts are becoming really useful again. A few years ago whenever someone posted a question to a forum you could often find the same snarky remark in the comments: 'just google it'. There was even a website created to add to the snark (let me google that for you). And there was some truth to that comment. Usually you could find the answer pretty easily with a quick search.

But that's not the case anymore. With AI slop, search engines are getting less and less helpful. Slop has polluted our search results just like plastic has polluted our oceans. It's at the point now where search engines are almost useless for large subsets of common queries. So we are slowly returning to a pre-search engine era. In this new, post-search engine era, forum posts provide a very useful way of providing information. Long live the forum.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 16 points 1 week ago

You don't really.

Skepticism is a practiced skill, rather than just "being skeptical", you can learn how to assess credibility of a source, and develop a habit of doing so.

I quite like skeptics guide to the universe podcast. Although I admit I usually skip chunks of each episode.

Another avenue is researching about cognitive biases. We all do it.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Use the Google flag of "before:2022" added to any search. This will limit returned results to only those captured before 2022, which is when AI slop feedback started. Obviously this doesn't work for current events, but if the data you're looking for doesn't need to be recent it can be useful.

Example:

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

this actually did show me slightly better results, although the results were nowhere near a slam dunk.

[–] dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Nothing is a panacea against slop, but for general search, I've become a huge fan of Kagi. Gave up Google years ago, went to DDG, but Kagi is a cut above. There is a subscription fee, however. (Not shilling - no association with them, just a happy user).

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I just follow you around and read what you throw out.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

What kind of information are you looking for?

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

For news: the Bylines network in the UK. They have a source checker for every article.

[–] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I don't know if it's a location as much as a mindset for me.

I look for fallacies and falsehoods and should they arise at rates that would be hard to chalk up as honest error, I stop trusting the source.

[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Similar to the top comment, I learned leftist political theory (mindset in their case). Once you understand what capitalism and socialism truly are, you have almost like a shield to protect you from certain propaganda. This sounds arrogant, but its genuinely been my experience

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I don't. I ignore the news to the best of my ability. I can't be misinformed if I'm not informed in the first place.

RSS ( multiple sources for current events) , Wikipedia, and forums.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

most news are from propaganda sources, look for how its being worded in the title.

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

And what photo they're using. Most news outlets use unflattering pictures of the people they don't like.

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Books aren't an answer to this question if you need quick information you couldn't have predicted you'd need, and therefore do not own a book about.

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just feel books are the ultimate source of knowledge. Been collecting them forever. Also books are free at the library and they have computers to search for things.

I also have offline Wikipedia from a few years ago, and an offline Reddit from a few years ago before it was poisoned with AI and bots.

[–] Ikon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Books are amazing, but i wouldn't agree they are a source of reliable information. Yes some books have reliable information, but just because its a book doesn't mean it can't have misinformation or even disinformation. Books were the original source of conspiracy theories and beyond that they can't be updated with new information.

That being said books are amazing. With a good library and a good librarian you can learn anything.