The US hasnt had a meaningful election in a long time. We were basically already a dictatorship. Now at least we can stop pretending that voting harder will change anything.
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We can thank the Electoral College for that. I explained it to a German acquaintance and he was flabbergasted.
"Almost"? What meager resistance are they referencing? Protests? Protests are not resistance, they are just saying "we don't like you and what youre doing". As we have so far seen that has had no effect other than get people outside and on the street when they otherwise wouldn't bother.
Those people on the street are building connections, coalitions, and community around resistance. If the protests didn't mean anything and weren't effective they wouldn't be getting met with such a violent reaction from the regime.
Stop with the doomerism, get off the keyboard, and get involved.
Why didn't they stand up? Why didn't they flee? Well because these did despite the questions suggesting they don't. Its like the one guy running from five guys and fighting them off as he goes, taking two down before they got him, but since he lost in the end he did not resist or run. We have folks on here who went to europe and plenty protesting and possibly doing other things that they smartly do not give massive detail on. Whats funny is I already see the republicans trying to pin the economy on democrats because everyone can see how things are.
We need socialism, and fast.
Gotta get the corpo democrats out first then prosecute all fascists and fascist enablers.
It is hilarious to me and also annoying that they say there is no resistance. Millions are flooding the streets. Record protests. Hundreds of thousands have made networks of information systems. But yeah sure no resistance. A toy company took the administration to Supreme Court and won but okay yeah no resistance . Women gassed and burned ice warehouses but okkkkk no resistance. Kids punching nazis. No resistance. Ridiculous.
Not to mention voters are flipping red seats to blue in many of the recent congressional and judicial special elections, in districts that Trump originally won too. The bad actors in the comments that represent other countries just want us to shoot each other over it. Even then they would probably look down their nose at it.
they say there is no resistance
There's street resistance, but virtually no political opposition. At every level of government, Democrats are falling over to comply, even as their constituents scream in protest.
There's a somewhat valid excuse that the Dems are minority powers in house, Senate, and supreme court (which is now partisan) and the American system doesn't grant any political power at all to a minority party against a lock-step majority.
That said, remember during COVID peaks, when Trump had his BS press conference updates? Andrew Cuomo, himself no saint, also had daily (?) live streams to give important information and quarantine/medical advice. Dem politicians could absolutely be using their voices right now to make a lot of noise - even without mechanical political power.
Democrats are not the minority in California or Oregon or Minnesota or New York. Nevertheless, state and municipal leaders have rolled over to ICE, co-mingled local PD resources, and left grisley murders unprosecuted.
That's somewhat true, there has been mixed local/state resistance - I was focusing on nationally. I wonder if there's some pressure being applied behind the scenes to local Dems, fear of retribution, or if it's mere fecklessness.
My conspiracy hat suspicions are that Dem leadership is willingly sacrificing our rights/lives and letting things get worse in the hopes of boosting their midterm election chances. Althe answer to that is progressive sweep in the primaries
I wonder if there’s some pressure being applied behind the scenes to local Dems
Yeah, it's called the DN fucking C.
Capitulating to Trump is a party policy
So what ?
Trump and his crew are still going on with their plan.
Your highest court rules that the taxes are illegal, and orange Don just creates new ones.
Some crowds walking on the streets and yelling is not any resistance, when the bad guys simply continue.
Time to organize
Absolutely. They want us to be at home alone, casting vitriol at each other in dumb little comment threads. They want us to feel like that works and matters, but it doesn’t.
It's relieving in a terrible way to see this acknowledged. I've heard far too many people over the last 15 months argue that this is just a roadbump, or talk about it like the typical Republican administration of economic strain and erosion of some civil rights. This is unprecedented in our country's history. This is not something to hunker down and wait out.
Even the idea that "fascism will inevitably collapse" is an oversimplification and wishful thinking. I understand that much of this inaction is trauma from the strain of us living in a post 9/11 America, which up until now has been a slow-burn erosion of rights and tightening of economic conditions. Trump's second term is in every way a different beast. It was well apparent that it would be since before the election even happened: Project 2025. The signs reading "MASS DEPORTATIONS". Hell; I thought the Alt-Right Insurrection on Jan 6th, 2021 was so blatantly anti-democratic that Trump would have no chance of winning in 2024. I was clearly wrong.
Look at China. Look at Russia. That's where the USA is heading. Those nations are fascist, too. That is the type of fascism I see this country falling into. It's not going to be loud, with massive parades and MAGA Youth programs—Not in a country with this many people, this large an area; and this many guns. The fascism of the USA will be like it has been for the last year: With citizens disappeared from our streets; Agents exploiting our already shredded rights; and surveillance networks tracking our every move. That is life in China and Russia; and those nations are well-settled in those systems.
The course of the USA is to fall into a fascism of the system. It will not be our military harming our citizens. The violence will be carried out in policies enacted by people with faces and roles; under the guise of "just doing a job" or "protecting their community". Hell, let's not pretend like that wasn't already the case. The War on Drugs, The Patriot Act, the regular abuses of police against protestors.... This nation has been one of systemic violence since well before Trump took the stage in 2015. Just look to the population held imprisoned without being found guilty in our prisons, hospitals, and CIA detention centers.
I applaud the resistance in Minneapolis and Saint Paul. What happened in the Twin Cities was the first bit of resistance we've seen in this entire administration (excluding one-day attacks—I am not downplaying their significance.) Regarding the rest of this nation: What happened throughout the last year (especially the atrocities of ICE) is well beyond what I inherently assumed would be the "snapping point". The fact that our economy and institutions are continuing in the midst of such blatant oppression and corruption, has me convinced there is no snapping point at all. En large, no draconian policy will trigger an out-roar, because the masses simply do not have it within them. We're too worn down, too distracted, too traumatized, and too used to it. What scares me most is how clear it is—by the public conduct of our corporations, our elected leaders, and our government accounts—that our rulers know this.
I thought the Alt-Right Insurrection on Jan 6th, 2021 was so blatantly anti-democratic that Trump would have no chance of winning in 2024. I was clearly wrong.
You overestimated the intelligence of both the Democrats and the voters. The Democrats are too feeble-minded to appeal to the voters, and the voters are too narrow-minded to suck it up and vote anyway.
Look at China. Look at Russia.
One of these things 🎵
Is not like the other 🎶
This guy is a sack of shit as big as trump, why are you upvoting the thread?
Ok, honest question. That Wikipedia article doesn't seem to say anything about him being a piece of shit, what do you mean?
He is a neo conservative, which I dunno if it qualifies him to be a POS but it does make everything he says pretty fucking suspect.
Sure, the never trumpers are better than not but they still helped usher in this current day madness
I don't know anything about the guy but even not up to spec people can say things that are common sense...
My friend Bob, who lives down the street, said the same thing (and he's no historian).
We all think the system will save it from itself and also none of us want to die
The problem is that the system is functioning perfectly. It was always intended to help rich people carry out their will, and now that their will is to dismantle the US so that technofeudalism can reign, the system is enabling them to do that.
There will be an election in 2028, or we break everything.
That's the scam.
You'll be relieved when the Democrats "take over", and the system will survive another term or two.
Then, a Republican will "take over" and the system will survive another term or two.
Mix and match a few issues and it's as easy as pie. Every one of those "hot button" issues is there for you to mash (like abortion), meanwhile, the real problems aren't touched (these usually involve a great deal of money).
The majority of the party members are at "war", whilst the leadership of both are colluding, and getting filthy rich on insider stock trading as a reward for sharing the power (and being a relief valve for the abuses of the other).
You're falling for the "good cop"
Why wait? He's going to try and spoil the midterms later this year.
I don't blame the Citizens. The Citizens are against a huge media blitz working against them: Online, social media, and traditional media. They've been systematically targets to oppose on another on multiple levels.
The Democrats and the Republicans both failed. This is Democratic Erosion over a long timeline. We're seeing the results of a failure of Democracy.
Democratic guardrails were removed over a long enough time and/or were not reinstated fast enough. The same people who thrive in high-level social circles tend to be sociopaths and psychopaths, both can be corrupt, this is humans nature. Technology moved faster than geriatric politicians could keep up with, and this was taken advantage of by both the psy/sociopaths and International Forces. We are living through the downfall of American Democracy driven by both Capitalism and International Forces doing what all Internationals Forces have done since Pangea split or whatever.
We don't live in a perfect world. Democracy will always be a tug of war between ideas of shared power and the want of absolute power; this is human nature.
The only forces that can hold a POTUS accountable, especially at this stage when there's so many stooges in place, is a literal mob or the Military Branch. If this administration doesn't want to give up power; I'm not sure there's anything to stop them.