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Alright, lose to AOC in the primary then.
I mean, at this point AOC is the only good option possible out of who is looking at running. If there's someone with a better chance and track record, I am all ears.
I was originally thinking AOC versus Erica Kirk.
DNC: Newsom/Harris 2028 take it or leave it
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DNC 2032: Why can't we win elections?
Or they somehow win 2028, normalize all the evil fucked up shit of the Trump admin, then the 2032 republican nominee wants to reintroduce racial segregation and stripping women's voting rights completely (Newsom and Harris made gay marriage illegal already, because it was deemed "too liberal").
God. Dammit.
No more fucking neolibs. No Newsom, no Kamala, no Hillary, no Shapiro — fuck the lot of them. We must do everything in power to stop any and every neoliberal traitor from being nominated in 2028.
I'm so tired of "elites" ruling society. Neolibs in particular have a horrible habit of preserving corrupt power systems and undermining people rights. For example, the democratic establishment is actively trying to expand the surveillance state, while we're at risk of a permanent authoritarian take over. Like, Wtf?
Honestly, I'm hoping some state creates a random-citizen option ballot. It'd be hilarious to get some random guy in congress who just rants about the rampant corruption. Plus, that type of systemic reform merges congress with a "people's assembly" which are supposedly super resistant to corruption.
An electoral system always creates a ruling class. If you want to remove it, you need to randomly pick citizens and rotate them every x years. It's the only option to have a legislative body that is actually representative of the people, be it for the better or the worst.
But...But...Blue no matter who! Do you want Trump to be elected again! It's your fault Trump won! ((Insert all other interrupting, conversation ending phrases neo-libs use here))
And if she runs again and becomes the candidate, she'll lose again.
Kamala, dear, you're nearly as milquetoast as Biden. You're female, black, younger Biden. Nobody wanted Biden.
...and so many people didn't quite f'n get it that if you don't vote for Harris, you get Trump. Binary choices are easy for kids to understand but hard for American voters.
Have the day you begged for.
If you nominate harris you get the president. You knew the situation and did it anyway.
We really need to move past First Past the Post, but the people who can institute the change are the people who are elected by FPTP.
We can in states with voter sponsored ballot initiatives, Michigan I think will be having a ranked choice voting constitutional amendment by referendeum after they submit a million signatures of registered voters or whatever it is.
Other states already did it, Alaska I know. It is a superior system that rejects extremists candidates, and makes people running third party not play spoiler. If you vote for third party first, you choose if he loses, your vote goes to the democrat. If the democrat loses, then your vote goes to Crimedog McGruff, or whatever.
Nah, fuck that shit. You're doing the equivalent of blaming rape victims for what they were wearing.
She’s already showing us she isn’t listening to us.
it looks like she cares more about the presidency than representing Americans
Absolutely. Unfortunately this seems to be quite common with those that aim to run.
If Americans were actually represented by our government, things would be vastly different here and around the world.
She was the least popular candidate in 2020, but for some reason Biden chose her as his VP. Then she lost to Donald Trump in 2024, after practically being forced onto the ticket. And she's still thinking about running again?
JFC. Whoever is telling her this is a good idea, needs to be fired.
for some reason Biden chose her as his VP
Because she was friends with his late son and fellow AG Beau.
She also took the most aggressive and direct shot at Biden that I can recall during the primary with her criticism of Biden's position on busing.
That's the problem with the DNC putting identity politics over matters of policy. And I don't even use that term in the same sense as the right-wing anti-DEI psychosis.
DEI is a matter of policy. Choosing a milquetoast establishment neoliberal solely because she's a woman of color is identity politics.
It's better to nominate a progressive regardless of race, gender, or sexuality, than it is to nominate the most intersectional minority who panders to the right-wing "moderates."
The Dems lost in 2016 because they forced Hillary on everyone when they wanted Bernie. Clearly they still haven't learned their lesson...
Probably the same person that told Hillary to run
It was her turn.
I'd love for her to run again and take votes away from Gavin Newsom in the primary so an actual working class candidate can win the nomination.
We can thank elizabeth warren for biden since you bring that up, our great progressive champion that knowingly threw the primary to genocide joe.
Her only merit was that she’s not Trump. It’s a very good merit, but let’s hope for some stronger candidate next time, if there ever will be a next time.
Being "not Trump" literally only worked cause of Covid. If that didn't happen, I can almost guarantee he would have won 2020. As annoying as it is, the people that would vote for a Dem candidate need to be convinced to do so and no amount of calling them lazy or accusing them of being terrible people will change that. Blue no matter who won't work.
Her only merit was that she’s not Trump
Correct.
It’s a very good merit
Not anywhere near as good as it sounds, given how difficult it is for millions of eligible voters to actually vote.
No matter how evil the alternative is, you have to give people something to vote FOR in order to convince them to risk their livelihood while waiting in line in November weather for sometimes half a dozen or more hours, quite likely with children in tow or while paying for unaffordable childcare.
The DNC won't hear of it, though. They're a for-profit corporation that exists to maximize legal (and sometimes illegal) bribes coming their way, regardless of electoral outcomes.
let’s hope for some stronger candidate next time, if there ever will be a next time.

Ultimately americans need to turn over 3/4 of their sitting politicians by 2028 or else the power structure will remain unchanged.
If she wants to win, she needs to be out there today pushing back against the regime. Instead, there's crickets. That's a "No" vote from me.
Nobody in the DNC are pushing. They are all afraid. When the 2026 election is stolen, they will still do nothing.
Yeah, I don't think Harris is the candidate, but who is? I'm skeptical that democratic voters can reach a consensus on a candidate. I'm sure establishment/moderate Democrats can come to a consensus on their candidate, and progressives can come to a consensus on their candidate, but there's only one party nomination. Will the progressives vote for the candidate the moderates come up with? Will the moderates vote for the candidate the progressives come up with?
Right now, we have only one priority, and everything else has to take a back seat until we fully accomplish that objective: We have to crush MAGA decisively, and purge it from our government and our society. We cannot address all the other problems this nation faces as long as we have treasonous, corrupt, racist, pedophiles cheating, bribing, stealing, intimidating their way into power, and keeping good things from happening to this country.
So the next Democratic president has to be a Warrior. We cannot afford any more feckless Democrats like Biden and Obama, who stood by and watched as the larval Republicans morphed into their final stage: MAGA, and stole America right out from under their noses.
The next president needs to know that we expect them to FIGHT for us. We are in unprecedented times, and we will require unprecedented solutions, and we need a President who isn't afraid to act decisively toward the true National Security Threat that a violent domestic terrorist organization like MAGA genuinely represents.
I will support the candidate who pledges to fully crush MAGA, and MEANS it.
I'm not sure who that person is yet, but I'm looking at Mark Kelly, Pritzker, and a couple others. There are a few I would love to see in the office, like AOC or Warren, but they can't get elected right now. Newsome is a phony billionaire lover.
I'm waiting for that Warrior to step up, and declare war on MAGA. THAT'S my guy.
Well said.
Also: will the progressives vote for the candidate progressives come up with? Because there is always the chance that when it boils down to an actual individual, they may not pass some purity test(s) that are typically run against politicians.
"purity test" hey quick question would you still vote for someone who dismisses trans rights
they may not pass some purity test(s)
Most of those purity tests are in fact rightwing voter-suppression psyops.
I mean, if she manages to win a contested primary, she'll be a better candidate.
If nothing else, maybe she and Gavin will split the Goober vote and let some fresh blood in
I bet the super delegates push both of them until it's just those two. Then they will have a battle of the corporate shill old guards.
You had your shot and chose the establishment. Fuck off into the same hole Biden is in.
I think Kamala would be a okay President (as in, "not a fucking idiot" ), however she's still a corporate pawn, Israeli shill and centre right like most other Dems who's main selling point is "not Trump". There are few good options within the whole party who actually support social agendas and not whatever a company's lobbyists or Zionists are paying them to support.
But more crucially, she's a woman, and not white and for 50% of the voting population (i.e. the ones who actually get off the couch to go vote), their racism and misogyny is more than enough reason to not vote for her - in fact, they'd relish in not doing so as it supports their fundamental principles of being a cunt.
Nope, give us someone better
Somebody we can believe in.
bad kamala. thats true, americans please keep voting for trump! he's your savior.
Already working for Trump, Putin, and AIPAC I see.
/u/return2ozma consistently called for no one to vote for Harris, or Biden, during 2024, actively helping Trump to win by sowing defeatist propaganda. They are a Nazi supporter, adjacently.
They don't care who the DNC runs, they will campaign against them, because no one that makes it through the primary will ever be "pure" enough for this troll.
Edit: your down vote just helps to prove my point. You are an anti-democracy troll.
