Trans rights are human rights
Gay rights are human rights
Black peoples rights are human rights
Women's rights are human rights
Human rights exist.
this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2023
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These will still get you cancelled in 2023 in some countries.
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Conversely, there were countries even back then that supported all these things. The Iroquois Confederacy was famous for giving women virtually all the power (except for running for office), and Japan had LGBT accomodations (and interracial respect, albeit with some skepticism) going back centuries.
This is the history I want to learn more about!!
Which one?
Anything that is embracing diversity/women's rights/trans rights/etc. Sounds like a really interesting culture.
There are other places that come close to those. For example, the ancient Greeks had LGBT acceptance, as ordained by the gods, albeit from a very male-centric point of view. Nevertheless, Iroquois history is what you'll find fulfills that, and as someone who has been exposed to their culture for a while, I can offer a bit of insight.
The rulers, which always ruled in consensus groups of five or six, were always male, as was three out of four of the founders of their government (Deganawida, Hiawatha, Atotarho, and Jigonsasee who was the female whose idea it was), but the voters (because it was a democracy that surpassed any other democratically) were always female, and most rights centered around us, including divorce (a woman could simply walk out of a household if she wanted), and goddesses took center stage.
They even went so far as to say civilization was founded once before Deganawida founded it, by a female founder called Godasiyo, but her pet doggo caused a civil war as doggos do, and after her last ditch attempts at saving the kingdom failed, she turned into a fish in shame.
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- an edgelord/temporarily embarrassed thousand-aire of the time, probably.
1923 - "we need to scrap the harshest measures of the treaty of versailles and help Germany's economic recovery, otherwise these national socialists are going to exploit the misery to gain power" lol
That wouldn't get you cancelled, that was basically the position of the US government which led to the Dawes Plan in 1924 to do exactly that. The impact of Versailles in the rise of the Nazis wasn't so much economic, by 1924 Germany was probably saving more by not being allowed to have a large army than it was losing to reparations, and the period of 1924-1929 was even called the Golden Twenties. The humiliation factor of how it was negotiated and imposed however played right into Hitler's hands.
That or gut them much harder
Idk about 1923, but in 1823 you would definitely get "canceled" for saying that washing your hands is good for your health.
"Hah! Germ theory? Preposterous! I should think these 'germs' no more real than the tooth fairy. Why should the patient sit in their agony while you rinse your hands when there is surgery to perform? Why, it's downright disrespectful, wasting the patient's time like that, as if you care more for the tidiness of your person than their well-being. I should hope that no poor, beleaguered soul has the misfortune to find themselves under your care"
It's a shame how they railroaded him into the poor house for such ideas. Sometimes being first is the worst to be.
1823: we should let the Indians have their land
1923: we really need to go over to Europe and stop that Hitler guy
1923 is a little premature. He wasnโt appointed Chancellor of Germany until 10 years after that. Hitler was actually in prison in 1923 for attempting a coup, so it wouldnโt have been too upsetting to say you were against him.
It wouldn't have been Hitler that would have gotten you canceled. It would have been suggesting we go get involved in another war so soon after WWI with no real evidence that it would be important.
However later on there was more support even among Americans with the US Nazi party that existed and tried to run in elections.
To be fair many around the world saw Fascism as a new exciting way to run a country until war broke out. Then those Nazis and fascists were only good when they were dead.
I wonder if those cosplaying as Nazis today understand they aren't the heroes they think they are especially when it comes to US WW2 veterans, (many would consider the real heroes) would want these newer Nazis dead too.
Hitler was always criticized. There's a NYT report calling him out as an antisemite in the 1920's and Casablanca looked down on Nazis almost a decade before the first signs were showing of the holocaust to come.
Who is Casablanca? Or do you mean the film?
The play that the movie was based on was written in 1940.
Now you have me second-guessing, I know there was a classic movie where the characters jab at Nazis before what they were known for came to light. I'll edit it in when I think of it.
In both eras, colonialism and militarism were still going on, and even though many powers condemned these two things, if we rule out things that weren't obvious like being a murderer, you could bet on supporting desertion and draft dodging getting you cancelled in all countries. This is literally how Red Badge of Courage starts.
Segregation being a bad thing
All of them?
Communism