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this post was submitted on 09 Mar 2026
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What infuriates me is that you've got this whole class of people who never contributed shit to the project, don't support it financially, probably don't even submit bug reports for it. But they'll spend some energy to spite-fork it. Energy they always refused to spend acutally helping, now they'll be happy to spend it to contribute negatively to the project.
I guess that's par for the course in this ultra-individualistic timeline but it makes me so fucking sad.
Wait, what the fuck? vim has LLM shit in it now?!?
As far as I understand, they are allowing usage of LLM for developing on vim, aka adding features to the editor.
...motherfucker… -_- The only users I block are agentics.
Well, TIL. I’ll have to be more vigilant going forward. God, this era of tech fucking sucks.
Probably a good time to consider helix or ki over vim
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Wait, so because vim is allowing code written with AI we are switching to a random fork? The mental gymnastics here are insane once again. Is someone assuming that the vim maintainers are gonna do agentic requests? How is this project gonna handle upstream changes into their own main? Cherry-picking only "confirmed human-only" commits? Decisions like that out of spite, with zero thoughts and just out of principle do not help against slop. You're just adding human slop to the AI slop.
I'm sad I hate to scroll this far to see a sane take. Bad code is bad, AI accelerating the destruction of the planet is bad, but experienced maintainers using the tools that exist is not bad, and trying to fork a project like Vim because of that is insane. Power to them if they actively maintain it, but I don't see that in the cards.
Wait, so because vim is allowing code written with AI we are switching to a random fork? The mental gymnastics here are insane once again.
What Lemmy community did you think you were in?
One where we critically discuss issues with and around AI, but it seems we're just chanting "AI bad" in a circlejerk.
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What mental gymnastics? I've already installed EVi on my dev VM, seems to work fine. Problem solved, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm glad to lend my public voice in support of a slop-free fork.
Of course it works fucking fine if it's a hard fork of a stable state.
What mental gymnastics? The ones you're doing right now. You have not answered a single question from my comment. And what "problem" did you solve exactly? Has there been any issue that has come up because of the acceptance of AI in vim? What kind of "slop" is actually there that makes vim problematic for you?
People vibe coding random bullshit ideas because they now can, do indeed produce slop. A bunch of highly experienced devs working on a successful project for years using tools that are at their disposal properly is not slop. You're lending your public voice to a split of the community and of the project for made up bullshit reasons based on no objective proof but claims of slop and out of principle.
I'd trust the original vim maintainers to decide what's a good or bad pull, instead of a bunch of random people who simply hard forked for literally no reason.
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slop-free fork
Based on what, exactly? I work with real people who write very sloppy code. If you're trying to make a statement by switching away from vim, why not go to emacs, nano, or sublime?
The mental gymnastics is trusting a completely unknown person more than an LLM. LLMs are about as trustworthy and competent as the average person. In my book, that puts them far below reputable developers (like Moolenaar), but far above complete randos like the EVi dev. At least the LLM is somewhat predictable, but people can be crazy.
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Why can’t projects adding AI just fork a new project with AI?? Call it vimai or something and let people choose it if they want it. Stop ruining things
Bro how am I gonna have time to go party with babes if I’m stuck at home coding this non-ai version bro the future is now man bro dude whoa
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Absolutely against AI coded garbage but trusting this person to pick up something as important as vim is also crazy. I’ll swap to another editor that has been tested and is a proven solution. Focus your knee jerk reactions so you don’t end up in another problem.
Wait what? Vim has AI now? Jfc
I think they’re saying before developers started using AI to write the code, not that there are ai features in vim.
slop code in vim? really?? wtf
They call it... Slim.
I can't believe ai slop is in vim of all things, also there aren't any ai slop code in nano btw
Better make an AI free fork of linux too then.
Can't have all those fancy 7.0 changes in my kernel because some dev used AI to check his code formatting before submitting a PR. I'll stick with my outdated fork thank you very much. Upstream fix for blatant CVE but the fix includes an AI comment? Nooooo thank you.
I mean its not like there's a reject button for pull requests or anything. Anyone could just submit AI slop and we'd never know. Not even from the blatantly failing CI tests.
Didn't Torvald's already chew people out for committing vibe-coded crap? At least I can rest assured the Linux Kernel doesn't have dysfunctional generated code in it.
I think actually on the programming side, we’re in a fairly good spot. I really think that AI will be a tool and it will make people more productive. I think that vibe coding is great for getting into programming. I think it’s gonna be a horrible thing to maintain. So I don’t think programmers go away. You still want to have the people who know how to maintain the end result. I’m a huge believer in AI. I’m not a huge believer in the things going on around AI. I find the marketing and the market to be sick and twisted, and there is going to be a crash, and it’s gonna be ugly.
Linus Torvalds
Vibe-coding =/= actual coding. He chewed out someone for committing code that was simply churned out by an AI without checking if it's actually functional code.
Lemme try find his email...
100% agree, but does your average Lemmy user know the difference between vibe coding vs actual coding using some AI tool? Is vim being vibe coded or are the maintainers just using some AI tools?
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Any idea if Neovim is slop coded too?
That's why I use vs code. Definitely no vibe code in there lol There is no escape from micro plastics or AI it seems
Lol, lmao even
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IMPORTANT!!!
Your browser (Firefox and chrome) both have ai code in it! Even using librewolf there's still AI generated code!!!!
Your operating system KERNEL allows ai generated commits! Time to switch from Linux.
Mesa3D also has no strict rules against contributions of AI generated code, so I hope you're happy not using a desktop, or graphics in general
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this is why nano is superior
What a strange way to spell emacs
emacs is a fantastic operating system, it just lacks a good editor.
I believe you mean helix
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Onward with the Butlerian Jihad! Down with vibecoding!
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