Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please – Niccolo Machiavelli
Orange fucker deserves what's coming to him.
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Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please – Niccolo Machiavelli
Orange fucker deserves what's coming to him.
Except Trump will not bear the consequences. Soldiers, civilians and children, many of them on the Iranian side, will pay the price instead.
Soldiers fighting for the US deserve those consequences as much as Trump does. This is not a "both sides have victims" situation, all of the unjust consequences are directed at Iranians. If you're referring to how the economic fallout of this developments will hurt people in the metropole, the rise of cost in fuel and food will impact far more people in the global south in more dire ways.
The USA, not just Trump, has to end for any amount of justice for these victims to start.
Of course he can by doing what he does best. Not caring about those he made promises to and pulling all US troops out. The israeli fourth reich will make that difficult but otherwise he will just abandon everyone.
"War is not some kind of a video game." Nor it is a WWE episode.
Bastard now gonna have a "holy war" in his hands, and already happening almost at his doorstep.
Sadly it has a pretty good chance of affecting many people who never supported him as well.
Trump can't even end his own bowel movements, it just randomly starts, leaks, and stops. I am sorry, but expecting him to control anything when he can't control his own bowels is an awfully big ask.
Yeah the genocidal maniac Netanyahu has zero intensions of a quick in and out. His whole strategy is terrorising the local population for extended periods of time.
Well, now we all know what happens when you make a felon rapist pedo the most influential person on the planet.
"Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please" - Niccolo Machiavelli
It is pretty endable. We just give them our republican leaders and any democrat leaders that were in favor.
There will be some sort of financial reimbursement.
Might be able to spin it around and offer college admission to their students to help bridge the damage.
Operation Payback: rounding up all political leaders who allowed this to happen and shipping them to Iran and letting them deal with punishment.
Considering they have been shipping innocents around the world to be locked up in prisons without due process, they kind of deserve it.
I second that plan. We are going to need to make serious amends on the world stage if we want to repair relations, and that sounds like a good start. Hold the parties responsible for all of this.
Honestly I believe Iran would accept:
The alternative is:
The worse/better alternative is:
Choose wisely, pedophile scum
There's a lot darker option. US and Israel tag team the populace in a genocide, shut down Iranian oil production while protecting the rest of OPEC. Leading to massive profits for Russia, some profits for US oil companies, and massive bankruptcy in Europe while crippling their manufacturing base. Which leaves the US, Russia, and China with functioning autocratic economies that can carve up the rest of the world. And the other nuclear powers are left to dismantle their own military to feed their people.
That Europe is the big loser here is a given. Which is why Europe really should get involved, today. But I don't think that the US is able to protect the rest of OPEC, at least not short-term. They are incredibly fragile and their infrastructure is exposed.
I think that the point for the US is to disrupt China. So that's the point, mess up the Middle East so that China has no reliable source of oil. Next, make a move on Taiwan. I think that China understands this and will get involved.
China already saw this coming, that's why they pushed so hard on solar and battery tech. Last year they dropped in 250GW of solar, and they'll probably do more this year. It's not there yet, but they're not as worried about this as you might think. It's a problem, but not a crippling emergency.
Europe on the other hand doesn't have good options. Regardless of what they could do, what they don't have now is the infrastructure to do it. And their biggest problem to clear out the Strait isn't Iran, it's Trump. European prosecutors are taking banking records from European banks about the Epstein files. While they can't prosecute Trump directly in any way, they can hand over anything they want to congress, or the public. In short, they are a threat to Trump, and he knows it, and he will attack anyone who threatens him, or Putin.
We could even throw in a FIFA peace price!
Sleep now in the bed you shit on.
The man isn't even able to prevent himself from shitting his pants.
The only thing « they » won is a larger distraction from the Epstein files of a pedophile president.
This dude started presidency with zero major crises, and has created at least three.
Calling it now, when striking military targets fails to get surrender, we will switch to war crimes, Israel and then the US will start hitting water, food, and transportation infrastructure.
The only way to get victory from this war is genocide.
Uh, y'all already all in on that.
They already have been. I know that at least one water desalination plant was hit. Civilian fuel infrastructure has been hit. The US openly stated they're going to try to cripple their industrial capacity. Seems the US has adopted Israel's Dahiya doctrine which targets civilian infrastructure. I think Trump said once the US is done there will be nobody left to surrender...
“At some point I don't think there will be anybody left, maybe to say ‘we surrender.’ They’re being decimated.”
And we know the Zionists are intensely relaxed about perpetrating genocide.
EVERY war ever fought was going to be over in a month with an overwhelming victory, and yet, it NEVER happens.
Except in the first US gulf war, back in the early 90s. (Kuwait was attacked by Iraq. The USA spent months preparing and then three days attacking. Then stopped when Iraq surrendered.)
Or the fall of the USSR. (Happened in about a month, no major fighting.)
Or the Russian annexation of Crimea.
It isn't that short military exercises never yield results. It's that wars persist until both attacker and defender believe peace is the best tactic.
The USA bombing a country for whom fighting the USA is essentially their national myth is possibly the dumbest thing that my country has ever done.
Generally what happens when you start a forever war.
It's the only thing Republicans do other than taxcuts for the rich and fucking up the economy.
No no, they also fuck something else!
I don’t see why he’d want it to stop. He’s been actively destroying the US for the overwhelming majority of his presidency. If he benefits the US at large, it’s major news to me. A stone rolling downhill shouldn’t be news.
He’s been actively destroying the US for the overwhelming majority of his presidency.
What makes Putin very happy despite losses in Ukraine.
That fat cunt is unable to keep it's trousers clean from it's own shit.
So how the fuck anyone thinks that that waffling pile of dementia riddled syphilis can unfuck the murdering of schoolgirls in this Epstein war is laughable at best.
Trump, as an individual may not have a way out. Remember, Epstein was Mossad-trained and probably shared a lot of useful dirt with Israel.
But there is always a path to peace; and in this case it starts with the US backing off. Iran doesn’t have much capacity for war beyond protecting itself.
Exactly the same as how there’s a way for Russia to have peace in Ukraine.