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The worst and most stupid bit is this:

Speaking to crowds on Wednesday, vice president JD Vance said US allies are "suffering from this, frankly, more than we are."

He claimed this was because they had "focused on a lot of green energy scams and they're hurting a lot more than we are."

Vance continued:"As much as we've got to focus on getting these gas prices down, the reality is overseas they're feeling it far worse than we did because we've taken the steps to protect our energy economy.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago
[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yup because that's the bar we want set.

Other countries suffer more than us. Great job /s

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I kind of suspect this is the entire point of this conflict. The US is not immune to global oil supply disruptions, but we are a net exporter now, while China relies very heavily on foreign imports. I would not be at all surprised if this was a way to put the hurt on China and the rest of the world, while blaming Iran for it. Of course Epstein distraction too, but not only that.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago

China will not be impacted that much as you think. China is much more oil independent than before. Unlike the US, China invests heavily in green energy and nuclear energy. The only country that is behind in all of this, it's the US.

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@cryptoandcoffee/china-invested-1-trillion-on-renewable-energy-last-year-dqc

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

why would this be good

and why would green energy lead to this result

[–] Maragato@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Spain, for example, electricity prices remain low thanks to renewable energy. This guy is stupid.

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He is not stupid. He is deliberately deceiving his voters.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Why not both?

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"We created an unnecessary serious problem, but it causes more grief for you than for us! So why don't you come help us fix it (at our direction of course)."

Gee, can't guess why that might get some allies p.o.'d....

Not mention they didn't even tell them they were going to do it before they did it. Why should allies trust Trump's America when they stabbed them in the back at every turn?

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

UK - petrol prices are rising.

Electricity prices are falling because most of our energy is from renewables and british/european gas.

Sucks for me because my car is a petrol one. My wife's is electric and it costs about £4 for her to charge up overnight and that gets her about 250-280 miles of range (£0.01 per mile).

My car costs £55 to fill up for 400 miles per range (£0.13 per mile).

Although my car is cheaper

Edit - changed currency symbol....realise 0.01p isnt the same as 1p....

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You should be ok with the fact that you need a car to live. You shouldn't live where this is the case.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago

If 15 minute cities ever become a reality and i can walk to work/the shops/doctors/pub etc then I'll glady give up the car.

That isn't the case and I'd rather not move house thanks

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What car does she have? Mines costing about 2p/mile in summer and a whopping 2.9p/mile in winter

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[–] DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

Supposedly it has Israel, but they haven't offered to send any help. Seems like that relationship just goes one way.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

trump has, which is mostly PUTIN AND MSB.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TIL US imports 97% of crude oil that Canada produces which is 60% of all US crude oil imports.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago

That has been a long running problem for Canada. It has the raw crude, but not the refining capacity. If you're just a resource extraction location, then you're no better than a colony; that's why Trump treats Canada the way he does.

Allies? I though we made it clear that the us has no allies in this war. Nobody want ww3 only to distract the brainwashed population of an awful pedophile from a list that he will do anything to hide it. At this point they are alone with the mess, deal with it.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure he thinks allies of the US are beta males that follow the US alpha male...

Stupid toxic masculinity and their constant attempts to cover up their weakness and insecurities by pretending they are 'real men'. And 'real men' don't have empathy. So they behave like self serving pricks.

Why do people vote baby brained bullies into positions of power?

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I’m pretty sure he thinks allies of the US are beta males that follow the US alpha male…

Vance said Trump was "America's Hitler". Before Vance realized that he could get power by supporting Trump.

You seem to be using "he thinks" in the sense "Vance genuinely believes". I am not convinced Vance believes anything, his actions look like pure opportunism.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Before ~~Vance~~ Peter Theil realized that he could get power by [making Vance] support~~ing~~ Trump.

[–] paul@lemmy.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No conservatives believe anything. They say and do whatever helps them in that moment and in the next moment they'll say and do the opposite as long as it helps them. They're animalistic, idiots who only react to things. There's no long term thinking, there's no layered thinking it's just "you think this is bad, so I'm going to say it's good"

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago
[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I cannot even begin to parse how he thought any of those words were a good idea, let alone in that order.

This is genuinely one of the dumbest things I have ever heard a human being say. Not only is it ludicrously, hilariously wrong, but even if it wasn't, why would that be a good thing? Why would you want to proudly declare how much you fucked over your allies?! Does he know what the word "ally" means? Do any of them know?

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Because punching down is the American ethos. On a macro and a micro level.

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[–] DarthPub@retrofed.com 179 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What's worse is that people actually believe him.

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[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 147 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Ironically investing in renewable energy and EVs is how Europe can increase its energy independence. It's not like they can pump that oil from their ground.

I imagine this war will speed up this conversion even more.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oil / Gas is a global commodity, shipped around the world on tankers. If prices are higher in France, someone will take cheaper oil/gas from the US and ship it to France where they can make more money.

In the short term, maybe the US suffers less. But, in the longer term prices well even out as people will sell wherever they can get the highest profits.

[–] paul@lemmy.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't even think we are suffering more. Like my fuel prices have gone up by 10p/litre. I'm seeing Americans pay over $100 to fill their tanks, I paid £60 today, our national debt isn't sitting at 20 odd Trillion and our stock market didn't just lose over $1T. Like everything else with these clowns, the truth is the opposite of what they say it is.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago

That's what allies usually look for, suffering.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

Yep, give loser MAGA some hope that they’re not the bottom of the barrel they really are.

This all just plays into the kind of people they are. “You’re suffering, but look at how much worse that poor asshole over there is suffering. Don’t you feel great!?”

[–] Zahtu@feddit.org 27 points 2 days ago (9 children)

does he also have a brainworm now or is he just as dumb? Can he explain like in what correlation does the buildout of greenenergy make one more dependent on oil?

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[–] GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What does it help him when others suffer more? So USA is still suffering, but less? Great for them... 

[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's the Republican's whole shtick "Vote for us, we'll make those people you don't like hurt worse than we make you hurt"

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

For anyone who doesn’t know, the US is the largest oil producer in the world, more than double any other country. So that’s the reason prices aren’t going up as much as they may be elsewhere, but also what that means is that when we attack Iran us oil company stocks skyrocket. People pay more, billionaires reap, hedge funds reap, the military industrial complex reaps. War as a service.

https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/War_economy

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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 101 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Why are they allies when spoken to and treated like this?

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Other aspects are already addressed in the comments, but this:

He claimed this was because they had “focused on a lot of green energy scams and they’re hurting a lot more than we are.”

It doesn't even make sense: US attacking Iran affects fossil fuel delivery; countries that focus more on green energies are more resilient to such crises, not less.

In my EU country fuel prices rose noticeably ~12%. How much in the USA?

And if JD refers to Germany's over-reliance in Russian gas (which isn't very green anyhow): That's the pot calling the kettle black. The US have already lifted sanctions on Russian oil amid this war.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Really Just Dumb? The Allies have something called public transportation and high-speed rail. You fucking moron, you could have used the $200 billion to upgrade the entire Northeast Corridor and turned it into a true high-speed rail system and that is just for starters. In the meantime, piss off and take your AmeriKa Last with you.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

"That reminds me, I don't like all those trains. I demand that all European nations close their train travel! If you don't do what I tell you, I'll bomb your country, and kill your leaders! I'll do it, you know I will!"

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

what allies, do the US have any left ?

I drive my BYD EV charged off my solar panels here in Australia or ride my bicycle.

I have no idea what the price of gasoline or diesel is. I am sure I'll see higher prices from freight but we've woefully under invested in electrified rail transport for freight and moving pole around the country so we are finding out after fucking around for decades.

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 2 days ago (3 children)

He missed his calling. He should be living in a trailer park with a yard full of weeds, broken toys and dog shit, a police record and a restraining order from his ex-wife.

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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This war is probably the most effective way to promote green energy. Similar to how Windows fucking up is the best way to promote Linux. People have to suffer before attempting different solutions 💀

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

China and India laid up from investing in green energy like

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