I wonder why the EU didn't find the parents of the kids to be in breach of whatever relevant child "protection" laws there are? I guess they are okay with the porn websites raising the kids. Maybe the EU can make PornHub to start a chain of day care centers?
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I would trust porn stars more than Conservatives to raise children properly
no one should be in breach
just because a freedom enables harming of the self does not mean that it should be taken away
Agreed. I was making a tongue in cheek comment about the absurdity of this whole thing. In my opinion, the parents are more responsible than the porn sites, but no one should be punished because young Peter managed to see a boob.
And what do you think happens when big platforms have to introduce age verification? People will just go to smaller unregulated sites which may inadvertently be worse because of malware risks and unregulated content. You just can't take the porn out of the internet, people always find a way
Yep, this is already happening with Pornhub in The States.
Fuck this
And so it begins. How long until Lemmy will be forced to verify age?
I'll run VPN through Djibouti for everything once that happens.
Connect to Djibouti to see the booty
I went to early elementary school with a girl from Djibouti. I went home to look up Djibouti in an ancient encyclopedia program. Probably one of the earlier Microsoft Encarta versions, and earned that Djibouti has the best national anthem.
And that's how it begins. Soon they'll start asking everyone to provide ID to access the internet.
Exactly. Chat Control being rejected is a minor victory unfortunately. There are VERY powerful actors and organizations behind the scenes for these policies.
I think they realized chat control wasn't going to work, but do not abandon the watch post, they will be back with a different approach.
Minors accessing porn on their own is not a real problem, and hurts no one.
I suggest that instead of age verification for kids, we do parenting verification licences for anyone wanting to have kids, before they have kids and then don't raise them.
Hey EU (and all other regulatory agencies interested in “protecting the children”), how about you provide information to parents on how they can setup their own blocking tools, like DNS. You can do this for free, today, right now and actually get the results you supposedly want.
It's a precursor to a digital ID.
Because China and Russia will use bots.
Despite stating in their Terms of Services that their services are for adults only, all four platforms allow minors to access their platforms by a simple click confirming they are over 18.
That's weird, I wonder why they did that? They've blocked traffic entirely from age-gated states. But in the EU they're taking a stand of some sort?
They did the best they should have to do.
The real crime here is while the EU is trying every angle to error your privacy, that time is not being spent on real issues. You are being sold out by the very people put into positions of power to serve you. If the data supported their goals, I would be there with them, but the data is very clear on the matter and the it indicates we are in for big issues with all these IDs being stored by centralized targets.
porn should be behind age of consent not behind 18; being allowed to fuck someone but not see media of sexual things is total bullshit
and not as a law. this is not the government's job at all. prohibition doesn't work. the only solution is proper sex ed
just because it's harmful to the self (according to dubious claims) doesn't mean that people should not have this freedom. people's freedom is more important than prevention of them harming themselves.
Whoever's currently responsible for the kid should be responsible for watching them and keeping them out of shit they shouldn't be getting into. Expecting everyone else to put up with this privacy invading shit is fucking stupid.
The smart people never enter politics and so rational solutions like yours never see the day of light. Plus, it is more about collecting your data and control than protecting anyone.
So yeah tor doesnt require a ID... So have fun I suppose? And be careful
And then it pushes people into darker areas. I just sw a post about a horrible rape ring and it hosted videos on sites that I saw on 4chan over the years.
How about parents be parents and monitor kids.
For real. This is like saying all underage drinking is the alcohol companies fault rather than the parents that leave their alcohol easily accessible to their kids, basically providing it for them. Underage kids say 16 or under should absolutely not have unmonitored access to the internet, and that is solely on the parents to enforce. You don't have to buy your kid a smart phone or tablet or computer. When you do your providing then access to the internet and hoping they make the right call.
Didn't know about Stripchat. Sooo … thanks, EU?
What a second. Pornhub is in US. This is like UK trying to force 4chan into age verification
*Canada
If kids are willfully seeking porn, then it ain't anybody's business to stop them. Exploring and enjoying your sexuality is part of growing up, and "moral" whackjobs shouldn't get to decide how people grow up.
Protecting the kids should be about providing useful information, contraception, and official aid against predators.
Why do children have to ruin everything?
Because most adults are incompetent parents.
There are no minors holding EU office, anything being done in the name of "kid-friendliness" is actually advertiser-friendly, minors are a convenient scapegoat with basically no political power who can be leveraged to curtail everyone's rights
That's not how the internet works.
The onus is on the users. The parents are the ones who have to figure out a way to ensure what their kid's devices can access, or that they are educated enough not to seek it.
Should kids be allowed to buy alkohol in stores?
How a brick-and-mortar store works can't be compared to the Internet.
Until minors can buy alcohol online.
I’m reading and odd headline about the EU and wonder if it’s the Commission again. Then I‘m reading EU Commission and think lobbyist groups, foreign think tanks and the filthy rich.
I am once again asking why a non-European website (pornhub) should have to care.
If you want to censor stuff so bad, then hop to it. Why are you asking people outside your borders censor themselves?
Let's do a hot take though - zoomers or whatever newer gen is are so out of natural touch and wired into their doom scroll that they won't even bother looking for porn.