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[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 5 points 5 hours ago

I'll give the orange moron an hour or two to produce an all caps posting on his sewer of a platform, calling Leo a "Fake Pope", claiming the papal election was 'rigged' and threatening to bomb the Vatican unless they offer him the papacy.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago

God also rejects prayers of child molesters, Leo.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Before we go too hard into the "um, actually" responses, this was pretty obviously a reaction to Hegseth's "prayer for violence."

I'll take any sort of help we can get against that idiot and his gang of idiots' illegal war.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

Religion can be fine. It is and always has been the idiots who ruin shit, just like with everything. I have churches around me that help the community, are open to all sorts of people. So the leader of one of the largest churches finally doing what he can to denounce nonsense is a step in the right direction for sure.

Unfortunately, the idiots will most certainly be heard.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 11 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I love you Leo but these leaders couldn't care less about god. Perhaps a better twist would "Leaders who wage wars are antichrists on Earth"?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

These guys may not care about God, but they sure do invoke him a lot. Hegseth and other commanders are catching a LOT of complaints from officers and troops about the constant barrage of religious rhetoric coming from the top. And Israel and Iran are doing everything they're doing in the name of the same God as us.

So it's good that Pope Leo is speaking out directly against those hypocrites. I don't believe in any of that hogwash, but Pope Leo has a lot more credibility as a man of God than any of those other psychopaths.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

The leaders don't care but a lot of the people who voted for them allegedly do.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

yea that why I think it is more to the point to equate them with antichrist (or atleast their cult if we wanna give it a lovecraftian twist) rather than just someone whose prayers don't get accepted. Leo is a playa, he should know this.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 hours ago

allegedly

That word is doing a lot of work.

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

Dunno, Hegseth mentions a lot of God in his speeches about this war

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

He's allegedly omniscient and omnipotent, so he must be okay with the needless death and suffering.

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Every US president in the last 35 years has bombed the middle east.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Sad-funny part is that it was in the name of "bringing the armageddon" alongside money.

There was decaded of propoganda calling all forms of self-defense "just religious extremism" and we find out it was mostly projection.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

That only takes us to 1991.

Reagan bombed Libya, and IIUC, Carter tried a rescue mission in Iran.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 17 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

[] Leo said. "He revealed the gentle face of God, who always rejects violence.

I think my Bible might be faulty

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

The Israelites were YAHWEH’s special people, so when they are oppressed it’s bad, but they are obligated to genocide anyone that stands in their way. Even babies and animals.

This should sound familiar even you have never read a line of a Bible or Torah.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

No no no. That was the Old Testament which doesn't count anymore.

The New Testament is the one that we care about (except we've we don't)

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

New Testament Jesus comes back from the dead and murders everybody on earth who won't bow to Him.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

You're describing Revelations Jesus. And by the time he finally shows up, all the killing's been done by the Fake Jesus that's tricked legions of people into damnation.

This is also the only Gnostic text that made it into the canonical texts. If you get into the actual Gnostic beliefs about Jesus, you're on a rollercoast ride of spiritualist philosophy bordering on the Sci-Fi. Alternate dimensions, shared souls, astral projection, just all sorts of weird goofy shit that the Council of Nicea cut from the program.

Revelations is, at its heart, a story of how Rome and its pagans will all eventually get what's coming to them. That the Christians-Who-Are-Doing-It-Wrong will get what's coming to them. That the Jews will get what's coming to them. It is a story wildly out of line with the prior books, but one that resonated strongly with the post-Constantine neo-Christian order.

[–] Enfors@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Because God's absolute morality somehow changes over time while still being absolute, because something or other that makes no sense.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

I mean, that's not wild on it's face. You can explain shifting morality with respect to changing material conditions and social relationships.

I might argue that the Old Testament God was intended to offer leverage to the intelligencia (priest class) over the military/aristocracy (kings and their courtiers).

Meanwhile, the New Testament was fundamentally describing a God of Slaves, preaching equinimity and grace in the next life for the hardships of the modern day.

And then, when the slave class overthrew and supplanted the Pagan aristocracy, suddenly the Old Testament was back in fashion again.

It makes sense historically

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok based af of him

Also I'm wondering what the bets are like on how long it takes Vance to kill him

[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

He probably knows better than to shake hands with Vance, curse or not.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Was he sitting on his solid gold jewel-encrusted throne when he said this? Just wondering.

Fun factoid: Catholic church owns more land than any other organization on Earth, almost 180 million acres. They acquired unknown thousands of acres through bloody warfare

This is our God: Jesus, King of Peace, who rejects war, ​whom no one can use to justify war"

I don't get it

Shouldn't the pope read the Bible? In Revelation, Jesus comes back and murders everybody

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

FWIW, 180 million acres is about 728 000 sq km,

which is bigger than Texas.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So, in USA at least, all of the taxpayers are financing one of the world's richest organizations (tax free, no property taxes and many more benefits that no "non-profit" shares).

Yet, they still must pass that collection plate with every service to fleece their sheep just a tiny bit more. Their treasure horde is never enough.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

FWIW,

wp:The Satanic Temple

(my bold)

On April 25, 2019, the Temple announced it had received tax-exempt status from the Internal Revenue Service, being classified as a "church or a convention or association of churches".[40] The Satanic Temple had previously been reluctant to pursue tax-exempt status until the Johnson Amendment was weakened by an executive order "Promoting Free Speech and Religious Liberty" signed by President Trump in May 2017, which TST viewed as unfairly giving higher status to religious individuals.[41]

😁🙂

[–] Enfors@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Where is he getting that information, exactly? Can this be independently verified?

Big f---ing /s on this one...

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Fictional characters don't matter

[–] Enfors@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

What are you talking about?

... Leo isn't fictional.

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

so does that mean Catholic teaching changes over time ? Because to my knowledge, the crusader were motivated by the Pope speeches !

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Kind of yeah, one of the reasons for the pope existing. That's why they keep doing the whole voting thing

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[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

It does, and will continue to do so.

The bishops responsible for ejecting the Pope are likely aware of this, and is by in large why Leo was chosen. The church really doesn't get to set the cultural trend as much as nudge it in a particular direction. It's the bumpers in a bowling alley, not the ball.

People are going to find something they don't like,then seek justification for not liking it.

Two dudes fuckin, ew! I would never do that that's so gross. Oh look, here's this passage in this book I like saying that's actually evil! Hell yeah!

When it looks like 'Christians' cherry pick passages to support whatever nonsense they're on about, that's because they are, always have done so and always will. Because the nonsense was always more important to them than the Bible. It just so happens that the Bible says a lot of shit that's very easy to take out of context to support whatever nonsense you want.

The Pope is reading the room, and providing justification. Or rather, the Cardinals elected a Pope that aligns with the current climate and he's just saying whatever ~~God tells him to~~ comes to mind. He might swing a few people but if he pushes too hard what he'll just alienate some Catholics and they might break off and do their own thing, again.

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Yes, it does.

[–] ZombieChicken@reddthat.com 4 points 17 hours ago

As I recall, only the first Crusade was endorsed by a Pope. And no, the teachings don't change, though the way things are phrased varies based on culture.

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[–] MrAvogadro@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

The position of Pope has been used to send many people to their death primarily in the middle ages. Julius II was called the Warrior Pope, he was the first and only pontiff to command and lead a papal army into battle. 1503 - 1513 and then there were the Crusades

[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (5 children)

Being an American and a good Christian is contradictory. Look at how it started in America, forced conversions of native American children and that was just of what we know of it, at least here in America.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

good Christian

Those 2 words are not synonyms, despite how often people pretend they are.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Being an American and a good person is contradictory, what with the numerous genocides throughout her history and all, that being one of them.

I get what you're saying but it's hard to lay blame on a modern person for some shit a related group of people did 150 years ago. That's like saying it's impossible to be Irish and a good Catholic, what with the child slavery prisons, which are far more recent. Or that is impossible to be a Muslim and a good person, what with the things other Muslims have done in the name of God.

You're responsible for you. Other people are responsible for themselves. Unless you happen to believe that every person is responsible for the sins of his father. Which, weirdly enough the Catholic Church does, but didn't happen to be involved in that particular genocide.

Also, counterpoint, Mr Rogers. American, Christian, good person. Or Jimmy Carter.

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 15 hours ago

It's almost like putting general groups of people into stereotypical categories makes it easy to hate and blame and keep us divided.

I wonder who stands to benefit the most from that.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Congrats on the dumbest thing I've read today, and I've read quotes from Trump today!

"Based on where you are born, you can't be a good person." That's literally what you are saying.

You: "Being Chinese and a good driver is contradictory."

You: "Being African and a smart student is contradictory."

[–] ZombieChicken@reddthat.com 5 points 17 hours ago

In a manner of speaking, this is correct. A Christian's home is in Heaven, they simply travel here as immigrants.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

That's just original sin talk. Also, Leo is American. For an American to be a good Christian takes extra work, "it's not my fault but it is my responsibility" and whatnot, but I've met Americans who are good Christians, and yeah they're involved in attempting to right the wrongs that can be righted here

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