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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I’m gonna loooove asking my MAGA Catholics about this!

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Are there any? Pope has made it clear maga is not aligned with Catholic Church

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

The drunk bastard is turning the Pentagon into a church and the US military will become the Christian version of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 87 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

As the Pentagon doesn't ~~host~~ promote services for the holidays of other religions to the same extent as they do for evangelical Protestantism, this is a clear violation of the separation of church and state.

Edit: Highlighted corrections to the above statement in italics.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@piefed.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

This is false.

The Pentagon hosts a Ramadan dinner (at the end of the holiday, to celebrate the conclusion of the fasting ritual).

The Pentagon has hosted Hanukkah menorah lighting ceremonies. (I'm not sure if they still do.)

The issue here isn't the sponsoring of a religious activity. The function of the military is to send soldiers to their deaths. Those soldiers who need spiritual support should absolutely have access to it.

The issue is that the president and the defense secretary have incorporated evangelical Christianity into their cronyism. Religion is being used as a litmus test for loyalty.

Signed,

A pragmatic (ex-militant) atheist

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

Made corrections to my comment. Importantly, Pentagon leadership should not be any more involved in the organization and celebration of any religious event more than another.

[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 2 points 8 hours ago

...anymore? When my mother worked there (admittedly, decades ago), the catholic chaplain conducted mass every Friday morning. (Very quickly. "GodblessAmenGetbacktowork.") They also had other religion's services. Nothing mandatory.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Fuck Heslgsetu with a hot poker and all, but this is not as bad as it sounds.

It's just saying there's only 1 Christian service for Good Friday, and it's Protestant. The reason for that is probably because Catholic Mass is less inclusive than Protestant. For instance: you have to been through Catholic Confirmation to take part in Communion in a Catholic Mass, whereas Protestant churches typically have open communion allowing anyone - including Catholics - to take part.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

If only we had a "liberal media", they would be quite busy asking more questions about the Seven Mountain Mandate and scum of the Earth like Drinky Pete.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate

Not one of these assholes believes in the Constitution nor what America is supposed to stand for. And no, this place was not founded as Jesusland.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 40 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

And us Atheists who point out that all the various Gods are fucking fanfic have to shut up and take it

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Literally hundreds of Gods. Atheists just believe in one less God than they do.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I mean, take what?

That the exclusive nature of any base doing anything religious is smaller this time than it normally is?

Like, I'm a vet, I'm an atheist...

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

If it was slightly more inclusive it wouldn't be news and no one would care about every still excluded.

Which just means more people realize how fucked any religious association is, and that modern chaplains should be replaced with trained social workers.

Overall Kegsworth overstepping early works like a vaccine

Bro...

If you think he's bad, do you have any idea what the Air Force has been like for decades?

Here's an article from 20+ years ago illustrating it's a known problem we just won't fix:

Professor KRISTEN LESLIE (Yale Divinity School): And she was scared and was not able to move, and so the other cadets in a way to cheer her on were trying to support her but yelling very evangelical, `Jesus will be with you. Jesus will save you,' and that struck us as odd as a way to motivate someone in an environment that is not intended to be a religious environment.

BRADY: During a Protestant church service, Leslie says chaplains urged cadets to proselytize their bunk mates and warned that if they didn't turn their lives over to Jesus...

Prof. LESLIE: ...they would burn in the fires of hell.

https://www.npr.org/2005/06/02/4676698/air-force-academy-embroiled-in-religious-controversy

You know who runs the Air Force Academy board now?

Erika fucking Kirk.

They religious far right have been grooming incoming officers for decades and now they're 20-30 year high ranking officers.

...

And you're mad that the annual Christian celebration just now cut off Catholics?

All this does is make that demo realize they're on our side whether they like us or not

Edit to add:

Like, this the "second wave KKK" type shit that's been around a century already, but these movements always get less inclusive:

The Ku Klux Klan that surfaced in the 1920s formed the second wave of Klan activity in the United States. Unlike the first emergence of the Ku Klux Klan, formed in the South in 1868 and mainly concerned with keeping black people from exercising their new freedoms, the second wave of the Ku Klux Klan focused their efforts on a wider range of issues. This new wave portrayed themselves as a race-protecting group that “espoused a virulent form of racism, anti-Semitism, anti-Catholicism, and anti-immigrant sentiment.”1 Secondly, they saw themselves as “moral, law-abiding citizens dedicated to political and civil reform, civic improvement, and the defense of traditional American values.”

https://depts.washington.edu/civilr/kkk_i49.htm

They've been focusing on all the military academies for generations now. They prosetlyze like crazy even tho it's against regs, and prey on people during training when they're most suceptible.

And just a week ago Kegsworth forbid Chaplins from displaying rank, and intead show an icon of their faith. While at the same time shrinking the number of options from 200 to 31...

I'm not saying don't be pissed, I'm saying be pissed at the shit that matters, not the shit that gains us reluctant allies

[–] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago

Was there not an entire deal during the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation hearings where the GOP was up in arms about the left being 'anti-Catholic' for questioning her beliefs about abortion and about queer rights? And now they're doing this?

I'm not surprised by the hypocrisy, I just feel like it merits pointing out.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago
[–] Steve@communick.news 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

What about Sataists who reject the Cult of the NVMe?

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 1 points 3 minutes ago

Burn those assholes 👍

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 hours ago

May their budget be adequate in these trying times.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

pentagons are the worstagons

[–] PityPityBangBang@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

The Holy American Empire is becoming a reality

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Hmmm. Where's my colander...