Unpopular Opinion

That's what I've been noticing for quite a while. Lemmy slowly became the very thing it tried proposing itself to be better than. But I guess that's the cost and what happens when you got disgruntled users from Reddit coming here, just to shit up the place just because they either can or that is really how they are everywhere.

Really can't tell you how many antagonizing users I've ran across in all of my attempts to socialize around the fediverse, especially Lemmy. Oh and the power-tripping moderation is alive and well, definitely something from Reddit. It's almost like Reddit gave them a reason to leave it, just so they'd come here and repeat everything that went wrong.

The Lemmy userbase is human, which is more than I can say of Reddit's.

I don't know why one would expect Lemmy to be different when it's entire userbase consists of ex-redditors.

I don't think there's much difference between platforms. Everyone is performing to either get pats on the back or to stirr up something. The moment everyone around you seems nice is when you've entered the echo chamber.

I accidentally posted a link to some right wing borderline racist article which sounded sensible on first skim reading it. Commentators noted this. I apologized for not reading it carefully or noticing the other associated articles and the other Lemmy users were understanding. Just my experience but I think a nicer atmosphere prevails.

I dont know. Not that Lemmy users are necessarily great all the time, but Reddit has decayed to the point that its barely better than a generic Facebook feed.

Reddit has a perverse incentive to keep the user base frothing for engagement

There is no such incentive on Lemmy. We are toxic because we choose to be. All natural, free range, grassroots haters

I think you're missing the point.

People are people everywhere you go. Nowhere is free of people unless you want to be by yourself.

Lemmy and the Fediverse is not about only being around people that are exactly perfect for you to associate with.

It's about not giving your thoughts, your mental energy, and your time to build an empire for someone else to profit off of.

It depends on the server. But the nice thing is, you can pack up, walk away and move to another instance.

You are not tied to your first choice. And that is better than reddit. Go where you want to be.

the point is lemmy is ours, not some psycho billionaire's.

ffs, Lemmy's strength is in it's decentralised non corpo design, not that we users are a better quality of human. It went from Usenet, to the centralised shitiness of Reddit back to a decentralised system in Lemmy/Piefed more akin to Usenet

but, I'd also argue just by being here you're a better person.

So far I'm having a lovely experience

It's much calmer

I'm doing my part!

PSA: you can block users. Don't be afraid to do it. There's nothing you can say that will convince flat earthers or similar stupid people.

Haven’t been there meaningfully in years, but when I was there regularly if I logged in and saw I had a bunch of new comments I’d have a mini panic attack. Did I say something clever or something stupid and get eviscerated?

I rarely get the number of comments here that I got there, but when I do get them they’re almost never toxic like the ones I got at reddit were, even when they are critical or disagreeing.

…I do still get a mini panic attack when I see I have a bunch of unread comments though. It’s less intense though as Lemmy seems to be slowly curing me of that reaction.

Idk I kinda like it here. Everybody uses linux in this place.

The difference is that you can curate the people you associate with. Find an instance whose values represent your own, or run your own, and you can avoid the people who you find the worst. You can't do this in reddit as anyone can join and you have no chance to prevent yourself from interacting with chuds.

I'm agreeing more with this every day. Just yesterday some guy made fun of a genuine and reasonable concern I had then made of me again sandwiching in an "apology", and when I told them it still seemed they were making light of it, they flipped the fuck out and told me I would die alone among other completely unnecessary and inappropriate insults.

I mean, I get overreacting sometimes, but it kinda feels like some days half the people you interact with are either actively shit humans or are having the worst day of their lives. I wish you could feel at least safe enough to challenge a viewpoint without some dickhead coming for your jugular. It's pretty pathetic and I've gone through several rounds of wondering if I want to be here or not. I've definitely had to block a lot of people in order to stay.

I have been called a Nazi and zionist for literally no reason. Once I responded to a comment from someone saying Nazis aren't human to say "I hate the things they believe and do, and I think they should be punished harshly for their crimes, but they are still indeed human". You would've thought I said "Nazis just have an opinion and do nothing wrong," which of course I was not even slightly hinting at or thinking. I was told I was a Nazi sympathizer who should kill himself. Then the zionist accusations will come at the drop of a hat. I literally think Israel is evil yet if I say something as innocuous as "trump is hurting Gaza even more than any Democrat" that makes me a "sHiTlIb zIoNiSt". I'm probably in the left-most 15% in the US. And yeah I know that's not saying much globally but how about we understand that people live in a context and you cannot scream them into being on the exact same page as your own personal politics? People can be so self righteous it's painful to think about. It's really taxing to my mental health when I think "this space where I relate to people more than anywhere else on the Internet is also full of people who will wish death or suffering on me if I mention one thing they don't like."

Not true for me.

I made a joke, and someone got upset. I explained that I didn’t mean it seriously and apologized. Then they told me they were in a bad mood and apologized for their reaction.

I don't use Lemmy much anymore nowadays because of this. While it's important an alternative to Reddit exists, so I try to support it, it ironically feels more like a hivemind than Reddit does (ironic because you'd expect the opposite for federated services). I think it's because switching to Lemmy from Reddit requires either idealism or a Reddit ban, both of which disproportionately attract people who feel good when they verbally attack internet strangers for disagreeing with them on 1% of the implicitly agreed upon joint viewpoints. It also strangely reminds me of the feeling I got being part of an old gaming community that was slowly dying out, where eventually only the unpleasant ones who defined their identity based on it were left.

I'm always happy to see there are also people here who dislike this attitude, though, or even to see neutral posts. There is still hope!

There is way more "I'm 14 and very edgy and very badass" vibe here.

It's kinda like the founding of Australia - we get a ton of exiles who were wrongfully prosecuted by the Reddit government, but we also get a fair share of degenerates and murderers who also got banned and ended up here. There's even a native Lemmy group who was here before Reddit shed users and they really don't appreciate it to say the least.

I’d rather hang with these shitty people over here than those shitty people over there.

Most every community has some assholes, or at least people that rub each other the wrong way. There's a lot to be said for clicking off shitty responses and not picking up the hate.

The userbase is largely overlapping as most Lemmy users are current or former Reddit users. The difference is largely in the communities and moderation, not users...

Honestly I agree. In a way, lemmy has even more in the way of edgy teenage hot takes on certain issues.

I disagree, Karl. Zionists are out of effing control on reddit today, and they pollute threads with denials of whats clearly shown in the news, or else make wild claims without evidence.

You are of course, wle come to your opinion, but what you are saying makes no sense to me.

Some people over here can’t understand that sensitive questions can be asked without bad intent.

This just screams mott and bailey fallacy. It is very reminiscent, for example, of transphobes complaining that they get attacked for having the gall of claiming "sex is real". And that's basically what happened here. You said some upsetting shitty things in the thread about the two child policy, and now you're whining about people getting upset about it. Go touch some grass.

Less bots, more tankies.

I'm not sure which is worse.

Lemmy is hostile to nazis. Reddit coddles them.

Hell is other people.

It's just another bubble. Choose the bubble that fits you.

No, they’re not. The hivemind isn’t as bad. But there’s brigading of sorts, plenty of trolls, circlejerking, bad mods, and bad faith arguing.

I mean, that’s pretty much the internet in general, just reddit’s got much more of it by the numbers.

Lemmy is filled with people who are too principled and too adamant about their stance to use Reddit because of the enshittification. If you put a bunch of highly opinionated and stubborn people in one place, you get this.

Excellent unpopular opinion that I disagree with! Good post for here :3

On Reddit, I was CONSTANTLY annoyed in every thread.

Award edits: annoying.

Talking about awards and upvotes: annoying.

Spamming subreddits as hashtags: annoying. Rehashing the same phrase/joke over and over again: annoying.

Fake stories in all top subreddits in /all/ used as creative writing before LLMs made even being CREATIVE obsolete yet the site was clogged with bullshit and hundreds (if not thousands) of people responding as if the stories are real: annoying.

(More recently, as of when I left Reddit when the API change was made) Majority of people bots or astroturfers/shills/etc: annoying.

I constantly was shitting in comments and people on Reddit because so many comments were just… so… horribly… stupid! Asinine! Coming from a history of communities of folks that, while being overtly overwhelmingly dumb/offensive, were at least original or creative (IRC/Usenet/LUE/SA/b/specific forums) in their commenting and posts, near the end of Reddit’s life I felt like I had to dig through more oceans of shit to find a tiny gold nugget than I did when I was heavy into /b/ in the early-to-mid 2000s.

I find that Lemmy threads have an expectantly smaller quantity of idiots, rehashed ‘clever’ one-liners in every thread, ‘creative’ writing that isn’t creative in the slightest, and overall garbage commenters. Better shitposters, more furries, better grammar, and more organic stuff overall.

That’s my opinion, anyway. Your post has a lot of downvotes for a “popular” “unpopular opinion” post here which tells me you’ve posted a good one hahaha. I do agree with some of what you’ve said—I’d like some places I can post and read some more crunchy-ass shit. Not stuff like being racist “as a joke”, but with the way the fediverse is, I’d like some NSFL stuff and places where people can be free to be more crude or whatnot. Lemmy is very “safe”, which is healthy for a lot of folks. Overall though, I’ll take “safe” over “enragingly annoying everywhere” hahaha

The Lemmy user base id wager has a higher percentage of folks who are less socialized. Be that for a multitude of reasons.

People are people, wherever you go. People are flawed. There are many good reasons to leave reddit for lemmy.

Sure. I regularly get social media vibes as well. Everyone needs to subscribe to one of two sides. Simple truths are way better than long and nuanced texts...

We're doing better with bot activity and some Reddit-isms like commenting "This." underneath another comment. But we're not too far from the vibe on Reddit.

Not sure if roatsing people for their opinions is bad?! I mean this is the internet after all. And if you don't like backlash, don't publish your opinion on a discussion platform.