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[–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I live a couple blocks from train tracks that are used for freight, they pass every 2 hours most of the time, and run 24/7. They shake my building when they pass, and I can hear them blast their horn for road crossings with the windows closed. All this to say trains themselves are nothing special to me as a thing that exists.

I got to ride a subway (in Boston) for the first time back on like 2018-2019 or so, as a very much mid 30s woman, and even I got super excited for it. Like visibly, kid-seeing-train-for-first-time excited. My partner took a pic and titled it excitement. Dick.

Then last year I took a train to Chicago and wouldn't you know, exactly as excited the entire time. Only half of that was because I didn't have to drive in a big city.

I want trains!!! I want them to be fast and plentiful. I want to see trains all over the place, stopping in every single town. And I want them to do more than freight! Freight is good, don't get me wrong, but we could do so much more, we used to do so much more!! The freight lines still have all the old passenger stops along them, most of them are still in decent shape but have been converted to storage or businesses, but that could be fixed pretty damn easily.

I’m sad that we used to have trains but now I have to drive everywhere because rich people fucking suck.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I'm gonna be taking a 4hr train with a friend tomorrow, it'll be fun :D

Kill the rich and we can make trains again.

[–] madkins@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As someone who lives near trains, this just gave me an idea. Why don't we have speakers located at each stop? Then, the conductor can trigger those directional speakers as needed. If those aren't working, then they can hit the "wake up the whole neighborhood" horns.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

Most railway crossings should be grade separated. It's more infra but removes chance for any human error (and horns)

[–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

They sort of already do that with the rail crossing dingy bells and lights, but both usually happen if the crossing apparatus is present. I think its required here?

On a side note, I had to take a weird back way home the other day, due to highway closure, and found a house that has its own small scale private rail crossing with the drop bars and dingy bells and lights and everything, due to the rail hugging the road on the wrong side for them. It was very cute.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Humans are idiots, and the whole point is to keep them alive anyway. They can’t claim they didn’t hear a blast from the train horn.

A few years back they were trying to improve train safety after idiots in Florida kept ignoring the gates and getting run over, so they started using horns again in my town

But the interesting part was the compromise. They decided a better safety option was to build medians at every grade crossing, so idiots can’t drive around the gates. No more horns again permanent infrastructure, nothing active or clever needed

[–] errer@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Do kids in european countries get as excited about trains given they are super common? I feel like my kids get excited because they rarely see trains, they’re kinda special.

[–] MrKurteous@feddit.nu 63 points 1 week ago

Not sure if Portugal is the type of European country you imagine, but last month on a train I sat one row ahead of a child that would excidetly exclaim "another train!" (in Portuguese) every time one passed outside the window. Adorable!

[–] Get_Off_My_WLAN@fedia.io 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

... given that they are super common?

Oh man, I think it's the other way around. In Japan, the country with the highest rate of passenger train usage in the world, rail fans are a well-known category of nerd.

At one station, there was a mini museum and display of children's train artwork. Saw kids proudly posing in front of it for their parents to take pictures plenty.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for that link, that's so cool. I know of otaku in general, but densha otaku are new to me.

By the way the perfect kiss, that's referenced in the first paragraph there, looks like this:

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's also a long-running series of train simulator games, of Japanese origin, that had specially produced controllers for PlayStation 2.

Just like Japan has the ‘Air Traffic Controller’ series, when Western titles seem to have ended in the nineties.

[–] Get_Off_My_WLAN@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

At arcades, I always see someone playing the train simulator game where they try to stop the train perfectly at a station. Only in Japan.

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tractors are ultra common and yet kids go bonkers for them

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A large part of humanities has breasts and men still party hard if they get to see some unexpectedly. Probably some women as well.

Trains are cool because they're trains, not because they're rare.

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a lovely analogy - provided by someone so aptly named. Your alias rocks, as do you. Thank you for this insightful comment.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 20 points 1 week ago

Trains, Traktors, Excavators, Bicycles, streetcars, wheel loaders, trucks, dump trucks, street sweepers, garbage trucks...

Regardless of how common those are, my toddlers will loose their shit every single time.

[–] judgyweevil@feddit.it 8 points 1 week ago

There is always a first train and the same first reaction

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Yes, my 4yo will point it out excitedly every time he sees a train.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think kids are always excited by new stuff, and if it's big or complex stuff the excitement generally increases accordingly. Buses, trams, excavators, trains, planes, firetrucks, road rollers, cranes. And then as they get used to them the excitement either subsides, or it just keeps getting more and more specific.

So for a European kid who at some point starts traveling by train regularly, it either subsides quicker, or it has more of a chance to get specific, because they start noticing the differences between the trains they use, and possibly the tracks if they use multiple kinds. This eventually results in lots of train nerds among grown ups.

By the way, now I'm wondering, is the hobby of building and maintaining and running model trains on model tracks in a fixed installation at home common in the USA? I know at least three people who do that here in Switzerland, it's not like sports or something, but for the large effort it still seems relatively common to me.

One colleague at work has all the train models ever used by Rhätische Bahn in his collection now. That's a regional train company that only serves mountainous regions by way of narrow (1m) tracks in one corner of Switzerland, but it's still a big collection.

Croatian here, and yes (at least speaking for myself).

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Ironically, I think a lot of people expect the allure of “Oh wow, you have an F-150! What a beast! What an American icon! You are so big and strong.” Yet they’re so common now, it often gives a distorted inverse image.

[–] Jaybird@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As a European, kids LOVE trams and trains. I do not know what they are talking about.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A rideshare is the name of app summoned taxis, like Uber.

The point is precisely that trains, trams and busses are infinitely more exciting than a plain car.

[–] Jaybird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Aaaaaaaah, check never used those services..

[–] chattre@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago

teach em young, railfan makes for a happy life

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

My kid points out freight trains, but not the LRT, so what point is this trying to make?

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

We're all still reeling from the plague that killed off every child except for yours.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

my kid has told me he wishes to ride a city bus one day, and a train, and a plane, idk how he feels about boats though.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Your child yearns for the simple hobo life.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Sounds like your kid might like The Boxcar Children series

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bad arguments. Kids love Ferraris and all sorts of show-off, asshole cars, that doesn't make them a good solution for transport.

(I am aware I'm taking this too seriously)

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

When was the last time you got a Ferrari for a ride share though?

[–] xSikes@feddit.online 5 points 1 week ago
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

However, as a middle aged guy that took his first Waymo... I did point and say: "Holy shit, my first robotaxi!"

[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago
[–] pigup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[–] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dunno, kids get really excited when they see Waymos.

[–] mjr 3 points 1 week ago

Especially if coned.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Absolutely Shameless