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    [–] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    The left hand side is whenever I rice a fresh install. The right hand side is whenever I have to edit /etc/fstab

    [–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

    That was my thought process for a bit with having a raid not get mounted intermittently. Now it's finally stable.

    [–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

    I want to fstab myself in the head every time I need to manually edit that file

    [–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, i guess it basically comes down to when i want to tinker vs when i have to tinker.

    [–] anewfox@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    yeah but there's also been plenty of times i've been just screwed on windows where linux would have let me just go fix it myself, so that's still "linux is the best thing ever" for me.

    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    There's no perfect OS. There's a lot of things about Linux that will drive anyone nuts. That said for a largely community driven project it's amazing.

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I'd much rather have the Linux annoyances than the Windows annoyances.

    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    I've found it's either just that it's a lack of support issue aka not enough Linux users for that product or service to justify support or good support. Either that or whatever I needed was a project run by a single guy so it works kinda but also kinda not.

    I guess one issue I used to run into particularly in development was conflicts in setting up a lot of things. Now with atomic systems and a sandbox for all my dev tools alongside snapshots that's essentially dealt with. Also flatpaks can be a massive pain in the rear if one wants more direct CLI control or is getting other issues with the sandbox of the flatpak format.

    I was really into the VanillaOS project for a little while but it's somehow gotten worse instead of better, at least the last time I used it earlier this year.

    [–] shininghero@pawb.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

    The blessing and curse of simplicity.

    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    One thing I wish Linux got its shit together for is the middle click paste selected function. I tried to like it, but if you work on editing a long text this shit is downright a liability. I was working on a 20 000 word essay and when I thought I was done and was about to submit it I realised that when I was scrolling through it to work on it the center click was accidentally clicked a few times and it pasted random bits of text throughout.

    This also makes center click unusable in video games.

    I want the ability to turn that shit off. Ctrl C and Ctrl V is plenty practical already. KDE has an option to disable it but it doesn't actually work.

    *Edit: solution in discussion below

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    There are ways to disable middle-click pasting. A quick web search turns up a few.

    Either way, I've never had the need to disable it for the handful of games I play, including a couple where I regularly use middle-click.

    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    For me a quick web search turned up plenty of posts from people complaining about the desktop environment provided way of disabling it not working. Most of them had no replies. Others had tone-deaf replies suggesting to turn it off using the option they said wasn't working. And finally a few suggested to run a variety of shady scripts that mess with the guts of the system with no way of undoing the if they break something.

    And I'm so happy for you that it works for the games you play.

    Edit:

    Actual solution found:

    After a much deeper search, I've found out that buried in there was the actual answer I was looking for: The Linux version of Firefox is independently applying a middle click paste on its own regardless of whether you've had it disabled in your desktop environment options or not. For those who are struggling with this: You can disable it in about:config by changing "middlemouse.paste" to false. If you've also disabled in your desktop environment settings, it should be gone for good.

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I saw that post about Firefox. If you'd said it was browser games causing issues, I might have linked it. (Or I might have failed and not done that. What ifs are tricky.).

    If you want kind of funny, someone posted CSS Quake a while back and that browser game has WASD keybindings and Ctrl bound to movedown / crouch. And if you crouch and move forward, it closes the browser window. And there's no way to fix that.

    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

    I wasn't talking about browser-based games. The middle click pasting makes the middle mouse button unusable in games at least in my distro (Fedora). Disabling it in the DE settings fixed that issue which was separate from the annoyance of accidentally pasting text while scrolling, which was also solved by disabling it in Firefox.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    I've never had this kind of problem in several actual decades of running Linux. Mouse2 paste is great.

    I conclude it's a skill issue.

    [–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

    Never happened to me... But nixos? Exactly that. The distro is awesome, the language makes me want to print the entire source code and make it's creators eat it

    [–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Sorry, I don't have such weaknesses and thus cannot relate.

    [–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

    For recursive behavior, tell me if each of these requires -r or -R (or either) without looking it up (man page, --help, web, etc):

    • chown
    • cp
    • ls
    • rsync
    • scp
    • zip
    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    without looking it up (man page, --help, web, etc):

    But why? Why would you need to do this when we have access to these tools?

    Pointless test.

    [–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    Also whoever decided what the tar flags will be needs to be hit with a brick, repeatedly if possible.

    [–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Oh god oh damn my kde doesn't tell me that...

    Okay I'll give it a whirl:

    • chown: yes, I think
    • cp: no, pretty sure
    • ls: what? Like for a tree? For folder size? Idk I say yes because there's nothing recursive to me about standard ls
    • rsync: literally no clue have never used it but I'd guess no
    • scp: yes pretty confident
    • zip: yes also pretty confident

    The actual reason I barely ever find Linux annoying is because my Fedora KDE just does all I need it to pretty much all the time.

    [–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

    With ls you can list the contents of directories recursively. Or you can list the contents in reverse order. One of them requires a lowercase "r", one requires uppercase, but which is which? It's not such a big deal that different commands have inconsistent syntax, but even having run Linux as my primary OS since 2004, and before that Unix since 1993, I still have to look these up sometimes.

    [–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Aight I got cp wrong, which is kinda silly since I knew it for scp but I'm happy with that nonetheless

    [–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Every damn time.

    I think rsync is lowercase, and maybe zip. The rest I think are uppercase. Complete guess though.

    [–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

    A couple more challenges:

    • As an unprivileged user, append multiple lines to a file owned by root, using sudo and a here document.
    • Redirect both stdout and stderr to a file using Bourne shell syntax (not bash!)
    [–] PlexSheep 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    -R -r -R -r -r -r I think

    ~~I don't know if this is true, but if yes, then -R is a GNU weirdness~~ No wait that doesn't make sense. ls is also GNU.

    [–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Very close! -R, either, -R, -r, -r, -r. I typically think "-R except for ssh-related", but zip violates that and I'm sure there are plenty of other counterexamples too. On the topic of ssh, I still can't keep -p or -P straight (ssh vs scp).

    [–] PlexSheep 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Wait if cp is either, then I got it correct, right? Yay me

    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    funny I never had this specific issue with recursive behavior. I find it obvious that only rsync and zip are recursive by default, but I'm not sure why.

    edit: ah you mean which ones are lowercase or uppercase, that makes more sense.

    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

    Linux is awesome and it's also a whole bunch of people donating their time which comes with some limitations.

    [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

    There is no metronome.

    You see?

    It is not the metronome that oscillates, but yourself.

    [–] CallMeAl@piefed.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    sorry i am a non-metronome owner and thus cannot relate

    [–] KernelTale@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I have been pretty happy so far. Maybe I would be a metronome if I haven't spent growing up with Windows, so now I may appreciate it more than I should be. Or maybe because I am a Linux evangelist who spends their free time programming and tinkering for fun.

    [–] Hello_there@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

    Vulkan cache every time I launch. Preaching don't work if I don't leave comp on when not playing. Increasing size of cache relies on old config file text from forum

    [–] julianwgs@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

    I use Ubuntu since 8 years on my laptop and it has been good experience. I donβ€˜t tinker with it much and it just works. On servers I use Debian which is rock solid as well.

    [–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    rm -rf /

    GNU/Linux sees this and says: ok.

    [–] anewfox@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    you forgot --no-preserve-root.

    [–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

    My life is ruined. :(