Do it all again when msft undoes your work on the next update
this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2026
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Not even next update. I ran a debloater script that removed OneDrive and within two hours it had been reinstalled with no intervention from me.
Ran into this shit yesterday trying to set up a laptop for someone where I had no internet access.
Imagine having everything ready to go on a USB drive and you can’t get past the second screen unless you find WiFi.
At least this command still works, but damn.
Video games have gone this way too. Pop in disc or cartridge, go to play, forced to download updates that fix what was shipped in a broken state.
And then they have the gall to point to sales of physical media being down.
Like, if you make your physical media shit on purpose, you can't use that to support your argument for digital-only distrubition. It's actually infuriating.
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If you use Rufus you can create the USB that automatically bypasses the Internet requirements. Still annoying af though.
windows didn’t have the drivers for my mobo, so i could use neither ethernet nor wifi.
imagine having to have a usb to ethernet dongle ready to set up windows.
what a fucking shitshow…
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I work in IT and half the time spent deploying a new device is getting around Windows' bullshit.
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I use this when I have to install windows.
https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/
Fully automated the install
If someone asked me to install Windows for them I'd very politely tell them to get bent.
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AFAIK the BypassNRO method doesn't work anymore, instead:
“When it asks for one's Microsoft account, press
Shift + F10, and typestart ms-cxh:localonly. This prompts the window to create a local account instead. 🖕” ―Bypass Windows 11 Microsoft account prompt
Worked for me yesterday, but this was on a laptop just booted, no connection to internet so there’s no telling what version it was on.
If the install media is old enough it will still work.
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Sometimes when seeing Linux Memes like this, I think whether this one user with their 1-man-linux-hating-community simply blocked all these communities or reads them as some sort of rage-fuel.
He's actually somewhat knowledgeable about Linux and he's putting a lot of effort into finding hairs in the soup. I think the guy just enjoys being an asshole and if it wasn't Linux he'd pick something else.
I’m convinced he’s a fed running a propaganda campaign because there’s no way someone’s expending that much time and effort and not getting paid for it.
I assume that he has a severe mental health problem. I had a neighbor who’s kid had schizophrenia and would spend all day writing about how we were hacking his dreams and other nonsense. The sheer volume of letters he wrote to us about it was staggering. A ream of paper or more landed in our mailbox every week. It’s amazing how much someone can do when they only can focus on a single thing and have way too much energy.
I felt sorry for the kid, when he was on his meds he was perfectly nice, if kinda odd.
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Nah he often jumps into my post comments to make some remark
Just today and yesterday, one of my friends asked me to upgrade their windows server for their small business.
Installing a fucking windows took me 6 hours. This whole shit would be done in 40min I if I could install and setup Debian on their server.
I made the mistake of creating a Windows VM and believing their minimum required disk space figure of 64GB. It won't upgrade. Asks to attach an external USB drive because it lacks enough space. It hasn't anything added to it, only some bloatware removed. Attempting to upgrade takes hours, fails (despite attaching the extra storage), then restarts the entire download and install process over again. I can only assume it's incapable of caching and verifying downloaded content. There's no offline installer option, like we used to have with service packs. The whole thing is slow as molasses yet it doesn't max out the 8(!) CPUs allocated to it. The host has plenty of spare capacity. It's a steaming pile of shit.
Linux guests run fine.
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Until people can buy a computer CHEAPLY and easily at Walmart with a distro preinstalled, Linux isn't going to make a lot of headway very fast. They are too lazy to be bothered to download a distro, make a bootable iso, wipe and do a fresh install.
And yes, they are that lazy unless really pushed to do it.
For most of them it's not "laziness" but ignorance. They don't know it's an option, they don't know why you'd want to do it, and the don't know how to do it.
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We call this "monopolistic behavior"
Whatever comes with the thing is going to be most popular by default. Windows knows this. Apple knows this. Linux simply doesnt have the funds to buy out manufacturers
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I'll bite, I don't mind making an ass out of myself.
I've done installs of linux where the fact the internet connection was shit slowed it down. why is the fucking ·iso 4gb if it still needs shit from the internet?
the usual suspect is updates of all those packages since the iso was published..
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mfs will learn powershell to debloat windows 11 and wade through regedit but the intuitive linux terminal is STILL too goddamn scary
intuitive linux terminal
Which one is that? Powershell is way more intuitive than bash and I like bash.
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Or dont connect to a network during setup and do this.
OOBE mode.
- Ctrl+shift+f10 or shift+f10
- Type: start ms-cxh:localonly
- Create local account
Finish initial windows boot, then follow up with O & O shut up 10 at minimum before connecting to a network.
Then there is the fun of going through the task scheduler to remove telemetry.
And they still tell me that Linux is scary because terminal
My main gripe is the clicking.
Clicking clicking clicking.
I've got keybord navigation down to an art-
But sometimes you have to click.
You have to move your hand from your... Keyboard, let's say, and switching to mouse, and that split second matters because it throws everything out of rhythm, causing friction where none is needed.
Clicking, clicking, clicking.
That's my main gripe.
The clicking.
I am Anna, and this is my testimony.
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Shift + f10 for cmd. Then do "start ms-cxh:localonly" and hit enter. Enjoy local user profile without internet.
Who says you have to install Linux? Just run it directly on a USB drive to be extra flexible!
start ms-cxh:localonly or one of those rufus unattended things are the only ways i could ever set up Windows anymore, their stock config is some bullshit
Back in the early 2000's I started playing with Linux on old machines and have used Linux on an off since. Now I only have one Windows laptop that I need for a few very specific things and it's Linux for any backend stuff. I've got pi's, nucs and a NAS, all Linux now.
I am so grateful for all the hard work people have put in over the last two decades making sure we can step away from Windows without having to go to the Apple or Chrome walled gardens. I've made a career working in the Microsoft stack and I'm so done with them.
Now if I could just figure out how to turn my windows laptop into a VM on my ProxMox machine.
Out of curiosity, what happens if you image the laptop drive and boot it under VirtualBox (keeping the Linux host offline, so the Windows guest can't phone home)? Potentially useful: https://superuser.com/questions/614400/how-can-i-clone-a-hard-drive-directly-to-a-vdi-image
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Windows just dug it's own grave over the years, and still fails to die....
30 years of vendor lock'n will do that.
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RUFUS will build you a Windows installer that automatically bypasses the Microsoft Account requirement.
It also lets you bypass TPM 2.0 and lets you remove a lot of bloatware so it doesn’t even get installed in the first place.
The lower half of this meme is getting old to the point of being a bad joke. No-one does this except normies and people who buy pre-built systems that come with Windows already installed.
The point isn't that an easy option for the bypass exists, but that a bypass is required at all. It shouldn't be.
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So... Every business ever, then?
The other one I've noticed is that they've stopped shipping necessary drivers with the install iso now, so if you do make the decision to install fresh, enjoy using the nipple on your Lenovo laptop because the trackpad and network driver didn't come with the iso.
I'm so unbelievably tired of being a windows admin
Source: I did the windows install song and dance this morning
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I just don't plug in the Ethernet cable or connect to a wifi network. There will be a skip option if you aren't connected but it will pester you about how great it is to receive ads. Then once you actually get to the finished install you will have 30 days to setup an account and register otherwise you will get the little note in the bottom of the desktop that says you're using an unregistered version and get pop ups to remind you to register.
You don't have to connect it to the internet and register, it just annoys you until you do.
They removed the option. Even if you boot with WiFi off. So now you have to open CMD and run the command OOBE\BYPASSNRO reboot and it’ll give you the option to skip. Had to look that one up cause yeah it used to be just boot w/o Ethernet plugged in
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Many Linii (and even BSDeez and various Archaeums) are more "download to a USB stick and use" now, you don't even need to install them!
I mean you don't even have to install, just boot the iso and click try now
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