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[–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

That's called slave labour. Here you go again USA.

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

They've just re-instituted slavery.

[–] lordkuri@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It never went away, they just eliminated private ownership.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Prisons are privately owned, no?

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Only a small minority. Private prisons are no doubt a problem, but the vast majority of prisons in the USA are publicly owned

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

They may be “public “ but they all funnel millions to the Epstein class and corrupt politicians through contracts on everything

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

History shows the pendulum swings both ways. The fast and more violently the swing to the right, well, political physics has some incredible lessons to teach.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If a person has a criminal conviction for homelessness, how likely they are to pass the background check with that conviction?

It feels like poor->homeless->convict->unemployable->indentured servant is the expected career transition.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It's been known for 50+ years that incarcerating a person is the most criminogenic you could do to them. It increases crime. It solves none of the problems it uses to nominally justify its existence

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 5 days ago

Can I have some sources? I believe what you just said but the studies might actually say something slightly different.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

What I wonder about is how long would it take the modern right wingers to embrace mass forced labor for people in distress?

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[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

Prison (hell #1) and homelessness (hell #2): the two whips of the capitalist state to lash us into wage labour slavery. "No underpaid job can be too bad to accept, or do you want to risk not be able paying your exorbitant rent, risk to become homeless? Sell your labour for the lowest price so some capitalist can make 2-3 times the profit of what you gain, which is bareley enough to pay another capitalist your rent." This is what the capitalist state enforces by holding up these two hells. We don't have a prison system by accident, homelessness is not a natural phenomenon. They exist by design. It's not about the money that prisons cost in comparison to what housing a homeless person costs. The money for prisons is a fair price to pay for a capitaliat state given the MUCH larger sum of money that its capitalist class can extract of us by making us obedient and doing the even shittest job for the shittest pay to suck the most possible surplus out of our work. Become communist. Sabotage. Seize the means of production. Be a grain of sand in this machine.

[–] Lyrac@programming.dev 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How does 16k permanently house and feed someone? Is that yearly cost? Where?

[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Mass housing dorms, basic shared facilities and cheapest tasteless grub for a person for 16k yep would work. Also I doubt any of them would reject volunteer labor or learning vocational crafts so they can survive have roof and warm food.

[–] senorseco@lemmy.today 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have a family member who chooses to live homeless and after many years of being around him and others in the homeless community I can tell you that many would reject this. On a positive note, some would welcome it.

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

How do they even tell if you're homeless? It seems like a pretty fallible conviction to ruin someone's life.. Like what if your bus got delayed?

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, why don't these guys just stop being poor and homeless?

/s

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Stop upvoting twitter/x posts you idiots, write the thing yourself

[–] deaconblackhorse@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean write it yourself? What good is that?

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

What good is sharing content from the platform owned by a trillionare nazi? "write it yourself" means that you can just write the same statement @fuckyouiquit made on X without having to share his tweet.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Permanently house and feed someone? $16,000 seems quite a bit too low. That might cover food alone I would imagine, depending on the person's age. More so if it's like a 30 year old less so if they are 60.

[–] doublenom@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Checked for France, cost goes between 12k€ to 17k€ per year. It includes housing, food, management.

Source here: https://www.senat.fr/rap/r20-632/r20-6326.html

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Yes that is annually but post says "permanently" which I take to mean for multiple years not annually.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It’s more like it costs more money than that to allow someone to be homeless, since they’ll be more likely to use emergency services and such.

$16K is actually not too far off from what I spend yearly on feeding and housing myself in Seattle. Remember that most housing costs in this country are dramatically inflated by rent (aka landlord greed).

Remember that homeless/unemployed people are likely to qualify for Medicaid and other benefits

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

I assume they mean in Louisiana

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

The Government of Putin are masters of cheap labor. That's why the fucknuts rarely send ICE to rural red counties.

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