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[–] Crow@lemmy.world 133 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like that we’ve collectively agreed on the idea that Tesla’s driving AI will detect and target children.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not most children, but if a rich shareholder needs a transplant, the car has a database of matching people who are organ donors or who's parents believe in organ donation and will make subtle attempts to accidentally run them over. (A joke but fuck it maybe not at this point)

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the worst timeline.

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[–] FiniteLooper@lemm.ee 78 points 2 years ago (14 children)

So I guess you’d have to either fill up your trailer with gas or charge it. Now that’s two vehicles you have to power, which kind of defeats the purpose of towing anyway.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can see the theoretical benefit, but yeah, I wouldn't trust it.

If you're a person with a car with no hauling capabilities, and no one to borrow a truck or van from, this should be a nice solution.

But yeeeaaaah, no thanks.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like self driving trucks would be viable before the safety issues for this are worked out.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Fuck it. Why not just get a little steering wheel and a little person to drive your little tow truck behind you? No need to worry about losing Wi-Fi signal.

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Everyday, car engineers move closer to the ultimate form of transportation: the train.

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (22 children)

Let’s make more vehicles with a single purpose, this will save the environment. One set of wheels and a motor is not complicated enough. We need two sets of those and A motherfucking I to achieve the same thing farmers did as soon as tractors were invented.

What problems does this bullshit solve?

[–] TAG@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This is actually almost environmentally motivated. Instead of driving a pickup truck because you need to pull a trailer for your once a year road trip, you get a self driving tow to follow your fuel efficient compact car.

[–] h34d@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago (9 children)

A compact car is already perfectly capable of towing a trailer, no pickup truck needed. Just ask the Dutch.

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[–] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 years ago

Just have three jacked trailers orbiting you like koopa shells

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 years ago (20 children)

I'll take 'solutions for problems that don't exist ' for $500, Alex.

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[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's like...people just think of the worst fucking ideas that are possible to imagine...& other assholes KEEP GIVING THEM MONEY for the worst ideas possible. Is this real life?

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

bus enter the chat

"hey guys, I know yall hate me because poor people can use me but it seems like this whole self driving car thing isn't working out because it requires an absurd amount of new technology to work perfectly..... you know if you just put a moderate amount of money into me I could solve most mass transit problems right?"

mob of angry suburban karens swarm the bus, light it on fire and tip it over

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[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Guarantee asshole drivers will try to squeeze into the space between car and trailer.

[–] the_seven_sins@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago

Solution is that the trailer will tailgate you all the time. It'll also flash its beams if you don't go 10mph above the limit.

Because of the millisecond reaction time of the powerful processor, there is no way this could go wrong.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (6 children)

People use "WiFi" as a generic term for wireless protocols all the time, this almost certainly doesn't use actual WiFi.

[–] SmoothIsFast@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, the tensile strength of Wi-Fi is way too low to tow anything larger than a jet ski. You'll need at least some vhf 5G CBRS to tow a camper.

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[–] alphafalcon@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eh, even If it does, it shouldn't be a problem. Relying on a wireless link that could fail due to interference or jamming for actual control would be Musk-level insane.

The hitchbot would need to be capable of visually following the lead vehicle, possibly using something like a big QR code for identification and tracking.

The wireless link could be for telemetry like range and non-critical controls like "stay here" and "start following".

If the link fails, you get a big warning to stop ASAP but the bot keeps following.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In Europe, where nobody fell for the lies of the car manufacturers that you would need a big fat truck just to tow a caravan, we just hang them legally and without issues to our cars.

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[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I turned my laptop on this afternoon and my wifi couldn't connect because my laptop couldn't find my wifi network.

Took two goes.

So now imagine you are driving at seventy miles an hour down the motorway, and your car loses contact with your cararvan.........

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago

This is pure poetry, with steady crescendo!

[–] muse@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"where nothing can possiblie go wrong. I mean, possibly go wrong. That's the first time something has gone wrong..."

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] finkrat@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

One asshole with a radio jammer targeting WiFi bands will cause an accident. This could be exploitable by nation state actors in specific scenarios if this gained popularity. Bad bad idea and should be discouraged. Towing should be physical-driven with interconnecting hardware.

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 15 points 2 years ago (14 children)

I fail to see the usecase in "hitchless towing". Anyone any idea?

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[–] PizzaMane@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

This has some real verification can vibes.

[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ok, but WiFi connection isn't strong enough so how about connecting them by a cable, which transports the data...

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wardriving is back on the menu (don't know that it ever left but feel like it fell out of notice)

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eh, a year and a half ago I caught a guy on a bike using a brute force car opener up and down a street near the job site I was on. Basically the device spits out every key fob door open code on a list until the car opens, or possibly it goes through known permutations used by various companies. What I know for sure is he had a small laptop and a USB antenna and was stopping at every car for a few minutes opening the ones he got, and moving on from the ones he didn't. Caught a decent video of his face and what he was doing for the police before he made off on his bike.

[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a relay attack, it tries to rebroadcast the car signal to the key fob, and rebroadcast the key fob signal back to the car.

They're hoping the key is close enough to the car to be able to relay, but not close enough for the owner to see them doing it.

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[–] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 13 points 2 years ago

Jeff is watching chaos ensure on the highway. 3 seconds have passed since he turned on his long-range WiFi Jammer.

[–] ilost7489@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (10 children)

A hitch is a few hundred dollars and a few hours of work. This is going to be a few thousand dollars. Who would use this?

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Few thousand? You basically have to buy most of an entire car as your hitch, including the most expensive parts like the engine or the motor and battery. This will be a few tens of thousands of dollars.

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

this concept is so stupid on so many levels lmao

rather they should make "smart" trailers that can disconnect and brake before an accident or something. and hitches with extra batteries (since towing hogs EV range like a mofo)

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[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

It seems like an extremely silly middle-ground solution between traditional hitch loads and self-driving trucks. If this somehow took off, I'm sure the general public would more quickly accept self-driving trucks. But I can't see why anybody would look at this solution and think it's a good idea.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It'll be like demolition man: "You're driving manually? Are you crazy?!"

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Using Wi-Fi for this seems like a really weird choice. I'd think the better per option would be something like low energy Bluetooth.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe it's a bandwidth thing?

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[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Lmao no way this thing ever actually gets made/approved

[–] GigaWerts@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 2 years ago

That what future piracy looks like

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