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Night vs Morning people (startrek.website)

submitted 2 years ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website to c/memes@lemmy.world

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[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 419 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Morning people, in my experience at least, firmly believe that night people are just morning people with insufficient self-discipline.

[–] miley@lemmy.world 119 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lmao, 100%. I swear most folks I know believe being a night owl is simply a lack of self control, or they have a screw loose

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 years ago

sure it's a lack of self control, if i had better self control i could force myself to go to bed at 21:00 and lie there for 2 hours until i fall asleep out of tortured boredom, and then i could force myself out of bed at 07:00 despite my limbs feeling like lead and every movement bringing me abject misery and pain!

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (4 children)

There's actually a genetic bias on it. It can be overridden, but you'll always feel a bit burnt out from it. It also changes with age (teenagers are the latest, getting earlier as you age.

[–] Soulg@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a night person who has to wake up at 6am, I can absolutely confirm. I'm always tired.

[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm the same way. If I fall asleep at 10pm but wake up at 6am I'm absolutely miserable for the first hour, but if I go to sleep at 2am and wake up at 10am I'm refreshed and in a good mood most of the time. I'm 30 and it hasn't gotten any better with age yet.

Fuck mornings I hate them so much.

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[–] icedterminal@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

For anyone curious about it, here are some sources.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6084759/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08259-7

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[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I used to be a night owl, then I had a job that required me to get up at 5:30. It sucked for 2 weeks and now I'm a morning person.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I had the opposite experience a few years ago, I am very much a night owl.

I did a job that required me in the office for 7am for a few months, I was noticeably less effective for the whole duration, I was just slower at everything and was basically constantly tired. Switched back to getting in for 9-10am and the difference was night and day, as basically I was back to my old levels of effectiveness after a day or two.

I just think I'm one of these people that cannot adapt, or at least if I do, it comes with a cost.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago

I'm a night owl and even early morning acclimatization hasn't helped.

There were a few months that I had to do 12.5 hour shift work where I had to be at work at 5:30 AM and I was miserable the entire time. It's hard to adjust when your natural cycle is like 10 am to 2 am.

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[+] gmtom@lemmy.world 173 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 122 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry I may have some pent up anger.

Nothing a good night of sleep can't solve!

[–] Throwdownyourgrandma@feddit.nl 42 points 2 years ago

This guy.

[–] ZombieTheZombieCat@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You must live below the people in the apartment next to me.

Why are people like this. Really. I want a serious, well thought out answer from people who act like this. I would be fucking appalled if I found out people had been losing sleep because of me. Or they weren't able to concentrate when working from home, or had to get a bluetooth converter for their tv to connect headphones because otherwise they can't even enjoy tv with all the stomping, banging, furniture moving, and door slamming. I would feel so fucking guilty and especially embarrassed for coming off as such an entitled piece of shit. I literally cannot comprehend that there are people who know they're disturbing others, in their own homes, day and night, and they either don't give a shit, or they get mad at the person they're torturing for asking them nicely to keep it down. Or both. And yes I have brought it up with my landlord countless times. They could give a fuck. The next step is to contact the city and have them come in with a decibel meter or something. In my state, landlords must ensure "peaceful enjoyment" for tenants. But I'd have to prove it's over a certain level, then deal with filing a complaint and/or civil court or whatever, so nothing ever changes.

This is one situation where I think an eye for an eye is perfectly reasonable, because after living through over a year of daily constant noise, I think my next door neighbors aren't deserving of a single moment of peace from now on.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Everyone seems to have a story like this, which makes me think that we might actually be just as loud as the people we complain about without realizing it. Think about it. It's not like we can actually hear what we sound like from the floor below while we are "softly walking around" upstairs.

[–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got told we were like this once. Mle and my wife would literally tiptoe around after, carefully close doors, live in a constant state of worry, and still the next morning the guy below would say "you're literally shaking paintings off the walls!" My wife was physically afraid to run into him after a bit.

At the time I thought the apartment must have paper thin walls that apparently I couldn't hear through, but now I think he was just an ass. Living off self righteous anger.

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[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 107 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So fucking much this. They have no respect for the owls

[–] mouserat@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 years ago

And they are so f*cking proud of being up early as if a short sleep is something worth to accomplish

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 83 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I wake the morning people up I'd have to spend time with them, which kind of defeats the purpose of being a night person.

[–] PixelProf@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago

Hah, yeah I learned I wasn't so much a night person as much as someone who indulges in revenge sleep procrastinating and doesn't get enough alone time in the day.

[–] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 54 points 2 years ago

"Sure is dark in this room. Better turn on every light in the county."

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I tried my whole life to get up early, one day I just gave up. Started my own company, bought a house - now I live and work like nature made me. No, I wear clothes, it's just the sleep. Btw it's interesting when you're hiring how many people are like that and love the hours. I can recommend that to every night person.

[–] ytrav@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

that sounds like a cool sitcom TV show idea about a seemingly normal company except they work at night — like a vampire version of The Office

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[–] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I shined a torch in my wife's sleeping face this morning at 5am.

I didn't mean to, I was looking for my ear tunnel, it had fallen out in the night and I didn't want to go a day at work with a cats arsehole for an ear lobe.

I looked for my spare ones first, I really didn't want to be that guy, I'm a night person.

Anyway I sent her this and she had to remind me I was a bastard.

She's right.

[–] registrert@lemmy.sambands.net 37 points 2 years ago (6 children)

my ear tunnel, it had fallen out in the night and I didn't want to go a day at work with a cats arsehole for an ear lobe.

I think I might be having a stroke, I don't understand what's going on here at all.

[–] Pogbom@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

I assume it's related to having ear gauges? Just very hopeful guess though.

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[–] clavismil@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I worked in the nightshitf for almost 2 years and can confirm this is so true.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

This was me when my ex was asleep on the left, her when I was asleep on the right.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How else am I supposed to signal to the night owls that it's time to hit the bed before they got to wake up in 2 hours?

[–] uis@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

before they got to wake up in 2 hours?

I wonder why

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[–] TexNox@feddit.uk 24 points 2 years ago (4 children)

See our house is totally opposite, I get up early, take myself downstairs feed the pets and have a nice quiet morning. My wife will arrive at bed at 1am, throw the bedroom light on, rattle all the drawers for PJ's, loudly demand I wake up so I can watch whatever Facebook video she's been watching and announce we should have a serious conversation about where we should book for holidays this year.

When I complain, it's 1am and I gotta get up at 6:30 suddenly I'm the reason we never talk anymore...

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[–] 31415926535@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

There's a sleep disorder, diurnal, common for people with adhd. Their brains don't wake up, start functioning til 6pm, wide awake all night.

I'm so careful, courteous at night, super quiet, walking softly... then 6am, morning people wake, stomping, slamming, music blasting. So not fair.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

It's not a disorder, humans are meant to have conflicting sleep schedules. Someone's got to stay up all night and tend to the fire / keep a lookout.

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[–] Chev@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Literlly my roomate. He sometimes even goes through the house with a horn.

Those are the moments I wish for not living with him together.

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