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[–] tripbin@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No... Theyre not. For fucks sake just admit hes a bust a move on. Why have people developed such a weird parasocial relationship with this player?

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[–] Jorikstead@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you’re feeling dumb, just remember there are people who believe a 3rd coaching staff is the answer to fixing Justin Fields.

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[–] Dump-Daddy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is a bad article with no depth of analysis. And that’s coming from a person who doesn’t want to take a QB and wants to trade down.

[–] Harambefan69@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is exhausting, Fields is clearly not the guy. Anyone that thinks differently hasn’t been watching the last few years. Coaching is obviously also a major problem, but fields has not developed to the level that a 3rd year guy needs to have developed. Look at what CJ Stroud has done with the Texans and tell me QB isn’t a problem.

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[–] m0chab34r@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Completely disagree. You have to keep taking swings for a truly, franchise-altering QB prospect. Is that Williams? Is that Maye? Only time can tell, but you're not going to get that by being risk-averse and sticking with Fields either - his body of work has been consistently below average as a passer. That's all he's capable of and we've seen enough in three years to make that determination.

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[–] CuthbertJTwillie@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Rotation. Injuries. A strong line and a great defense win

[–] Gillyy2020@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I wish they would fire getsy and see what happens the last 5 games

[–] CherryCokeSlurpee@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Article written by: Justain Feeldz

[–] tynskers@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Obviously. Also fire getsy/ flus

[–] xajenkins@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m new to football but the whiplash from week to week of JF1 is the future to JF1 is terrible. I don’t know what’s going on, is this normal

[–] TeaWeedCatsGames@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (19 children)

A lot of people are debating whether Fields is the problem or the coaches are the problem.

We very well might have 2 problems.

[–] Riderz__of_Brohan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I love Fields and want him to succeed more than anything. But if you end up with the 1st pick it would be a sin to not take Williams. It just opens up more possibilities for us and resets the QB pay clock

That in and of itself isn’t really a knock on Fields. He would have to play really good for that to be not true. I think he’s been decent but not good enough

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[–] fivemagicks@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Finally, someone looking outside the box. Why isn't the fanbase looking at data not directly in front of them? People were arguing between Fields and Bagent. I'd argue for neither. People are talking about getting rid of the GM. I think the whole fucking box needs to go - owners included. Get that old hag out of ownership. It's embarrassing at this point.

[–] enjoytheshow@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If we have number one overall and we are firing our staff, there’s no doubt I would rather start with a fresh QB and fresh coaching staff. Let the coach and OC evaluate the pre draft talent along with the GM and FO staff. Let them all go get their guy.

If they fail at that with two QBs that are supposedly the best since Burrow and Lawrence, then there’s no hope for this POS franchise until the McCaskeys sell.

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[–] lkn240@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

TIL that some writers at bleacher report as dumb as half this sub

[–] MrGerb1k@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Did someone on r/chibears write this? 😂

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[–] YoHoochIsCrazy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] The_New_New@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Hey Babe, new JF1 is H1M post just dropped

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[–] DivClassLg@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The easier thing to do doesn’t mean better…

[–] Tlupa@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Cut my life into pieces

[–] TheMetabrandMan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I’m in the Justin Fields camp but I seriously might take some time off this sub to clear my head. The brain dead hoards of “Stroud would have made us a playoff team” fools are hurting my head.

[–] Matzah_Rella@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Right behind you. The level-headed opinions are getting drowned out by the toxicity from both sides. I trust my own eyes after games, but they tend to turn when I start reading comments, so I'm taking a break.

[–] thetreat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

In addition, if we take CJ Stroud, we don’t have DJ Moore and our wide receivers are dog shit.

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[–] KingRemoStar@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

There better building with a rookie because Fields will be getting paid soon.

[–] pouch28@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think the most rational take is keep all options open and see where things are at week 18.

I know we have a roughly ~45% for the first pick. But we have a higher percentage we don’t. If we aren’t picking 1 or 2, drafting a QB is basically off the table.

I know this sub hates Eberflus, fine I get it, but be careful what you wish for. It’s estimated almost a third of NFL teams might be looking for new head coaches. Last year there were five head coaching changes. It’s estimated there will be between 7-13 this year. If as a sub we hate over paying for free agents - imagine over paying for a hot OC with no prior coaching experience.

[–] successandless@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Coach salary doesn't come out of the cap. That's why no one cares how much they get paid.

[–] thetreat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

We have a 71% chance at the 1st overall, AFAIK.

[–] PiantGenis@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

who care about overpaying a coach? it's not my money and doesn't affect the cap. roll up the Brinks truck

[–] EquivalentWins@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This article has it backwards. The Bears threw a million screens because they don't trust Fields to actually throw the ball down the field. Eberflus is desperately trying to save his job and has decided that playing ultra conservative is the way to do so. Maybe that's wrong but it doesn't exactly look great for Fields.

[–] unnoticed77@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The Bears threw a million screens because they don't trust Fields to actually throw the ball down the field... how does this unsubstantiated opinion keep popping up?

[–] juliuspepperwoodchi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

because they don't trust Fields to actually throw the ball down the field

Then they're morons, this is one of the undeniably good parts of JF1's game lol.

[–] PraiseBeToScience@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This point is so dumb. If you're trying to save your job as a coach, the number one thing you should never do is call a shit game. You call well designed plays and if the QB can't make them then you can make the case that you need a new QB.

Shit play calling makes you look like the problem and you're just tossing the QB under the bus to save your own neck.

And you should also make damn sure the rest of the team isn't making dumb mental errors constantly by being at the bottom of the league in penalties. You should make sure the rest of the team is living up to their potential.

No one is being put in a place to succeed by calling 17 screen passes a game.

[–] F1reatwill88@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After seeing Bagent perform better in this offense I don't know how anyone can advocate for Fields with a straight face.

[–] Usopp_Spell@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Did he though?

[–] Standard_Employee751@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t even this we have to build for him.

Passing on Caleb or Maye doesn’t mean you can’t draft another QB this year or next. Also have the ability to look for a vet too.

[–] FantasticJacket7@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I like how the narrative he's presenting is that Fields needs a serious down field threat in order to properly evaluate him.

Which is exactly the same narrative as last year prior to getting DJ Moore.

[–] 0100101001001011@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Well, DJ is on pace for 1400+ yards, which would put him top 3 all-time single season receivers for Bears. I wonder where he'd be if we had a competent OC? My personal opinion is we have a very good QB. Build an o-line around him, get a great HC/OC combination and use your draft/cap capital elsewhere. Not a hot take, just an opinion.

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[–] ebb5@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

...and they threw 16 designed passes behind the line of scrimmage. Can't use a down field threat if you don't design plays for him to get down field.

[–] Riderz__of_Brohan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mooney should be that threat. I’m not sure if it’s him or Fields but that’s the missing link.

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[–] ReapYerSoul@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I would like to see Fields with a competent OC. He's had Nagy and Getsy so far. Maybe they are calling plays that suits Fields better but I doubt it.

[–] CuthbertJTwillie@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes. Trade number one again. Draft defense early. Get a center and a right guard.

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[–] Azorces@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Let’s re-phrase this: “The Bears are Better off Building around Lamar Jackson’s future backup”

[–] Elros22@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No way, he's headed to Atlanta.

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[–] jcwillia1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If you sign him to an exceptionally team friendly long term contract then agree

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