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[–] lemmydripzdotz123@lemmy.world 186 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jordan Sather, a prominent promoter of the QAnon conspiracy theory, suggested that Swift’s life had been orchestrated as part of a sinister plot to encourage her fans to vote.

There a few other people quoted in there but it's all the same sinister plan they are proposing: The psyop is encouraging people to vote.

Republicans see large voter turnout as a bad thing because they are less popular than they want you to think they are. This is not new, it's just a new target.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Swift’s life had been orchestrated as part of a sinister plot to encourage her fans to vote.

Reminds me of the time Republicans in some local election had sent out a mailer smearing the Dem candidate. There was a big box on one part of the card, in a large font against a dark background proclaiming that the Dem candidate wanted to "Educate and Transform you!"

Well, I thought, do your donors know you are campaigning for the Democrat?

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that’s deliberate language designed to get voters to distrust truth and facts.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 164 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Better headline:

The Right will believe literally anything except reality because they don't want to accept they're unpopular.

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the time GOP Senator Mark-Wayne Mullin shouted "I don't want reality!" In a senate hearing

[–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Haha haha my god that's a horrible thing for a senator to say.

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Republicans don't understand Republicanism.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 114 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The right is free to have kid Rock or whatever loser they have on their side, do the same things Taylor is doing, if they're so concerned. Except all she's doing is encouraging people to vote, which as we all know is bad for Republicans

[–] thann@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're forgetting that if a woman does it its a psyop

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[–] thann@lemmy.world 90 points 2 years ago

Qanon? Not a psyop. Fake electors? Not a psyop. Fake evidence of election fraud? Not a psyop. Inciting insurrection at the capital? Not a psyop.

Popular woman wants right to healthcare? PSYOP!!!!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 80 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh thank god. Republicans are gonna piss off the Swifties.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this may be the thing that topples the gop

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[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 76 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lazy projection. The Trump campaign was already literally part of Russian PsyOps a decade ago.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Exactly.

C'mon now, we all know the primary thrust of their attacks/defenses is always "I know you are, but what am I?". By far the most common. It's used like half the time.

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[–] aniki@lemm.ee 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

It's because the GOP knows that more voters means they lose. Centrists don't exist. There's no middle ground between Ds and Rs anymore.

No one is 50/50 on Trump.

VOTE

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Swift is a force of good, as much as any insanely rich person can be. She alone may end up responsible for tens of thousands of young women registering to vote between now and election day. One of her Instagram posts drove 35,000 voter registrations. Republicans have every reason to fear the Swiftie factor.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah. She's measured with it too. One of the reasons her sway is so strong imo, is she just saved it up for a long time. So when she finally asks a fan "hey could you do this one little thing for me?" it almost feels like "uh, yeah, I've known you my whole life Taylor, of course."

Which the fan doesn't "know her" per se, but between a musician and a huge fan, it definitely feels like you do. It's a personal relationship, a little different from most other fandoms. Music is just odd that way.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago

I would say that Princess Diana would be a comparison.

Personally, I like Swift because she has legs for days. I'll vote for that reason alone.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This the only political statement I needed to support Swift

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[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only Swift conspiracy I believe is that she and the NFL fabricated her relationship with Travis Kelce to cross-pollinate the fan bases.

[–] 7u5k3n@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

The NFL fabricating stories for views / clicks / likes?!?!

Never!!!

Cuts to Taylor at a football game

Cuts to demar Hamlin - tho he did die

Cuts to Josh Dobbs and his degree

Cuts to Jackson mahomes

Etc.

I firmly believe that the NFL absolutely drives a narrative, creates drama, has the referees keep games close for views and latches on to anything that makes news and drives viewers.

The games exist to only serve us ads... :/

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[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry not a swift person but isnt she just saying to her fans, you should register to vote and vote because its importent? Wish psyops was that simple.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Also they're speaking as if their celebrities don't tell people to go out and vote republican.

Also what happened to the "free speech" crowd lol

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, Russian interference was a "hoax" (according to most of the radicalized right wing, the Enlightened Centrists and of course, a lot of the unhelpful left who seem to enjoy being useful idiots), but Taylor Swift is part of the Deep State or something?

XD XD

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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Are they upset how so many people could yield so much influence to one person ?

And they want a dictator.

I'm so sick of Absolutists. They create monarchies, wealth gaps, and Spanish Inquisitions.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why the right thinks Taylor Swift is a government PsyOp designed to swing the 2024 election

Because they're stupid, conspiracy-theory believing fucks.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Lmao, even if it's true the actual complaint here is they're mad the Democrats did it too, only conservatives are allowed to run info ops during elections!

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just when I think conservatives can't get any dumber they always find a way. It's remarkable, really.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's because a lot of people want a confident leader.

They don't care if the confidence is because they know what they're doing. They just want the confidence.

So Republican politicians never admit they're wrong and make up ridiculous things because any answer works as long as their confident.

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[–] Nipplecreek@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Republicans brains go burrrrrrr

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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

TIL opinions+ talent + marketing = psyop.

Is every political campaign a psyop too?

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[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

The answer is simple, because reality and the truth almost never align with the goals of the right. So they invent these fantastical conspiracies to explain why the world is the way it is.

[–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

While I don't listen to her stuff intentionally, I do enjoy her tunes for the most part that I've heard. I also recognize her talent and influence.

I think it's really wonderful for her to encourage her fans to register to vote...

The more people who vote the harder it is to maintain minority rule.

[–] xerazal@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 years ago

Anything that hinders the GOP is a government PsyOp. Anything that helps the GOP is God's will.

Delusional fuckers.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Republicans are attacking Swift/Swifties? I need to buy more popcorn!

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Republicans are attacking Swift/Swifties? I need to buy more popcorn!

A woman, who has only been able to vote for about a century, actively encouraging others to vote??! Blasphemy!

I wonder if they'll burn as many of the expensive NFL jerseys they paid for as they did when a black man had the gall to send a silent message about police brutality and inequality.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because they're running a PsyOp designed to swing the 2024 election to a victory for their dictator?

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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Fools! How can they not see that Taylor Swift's tour is a secret op to install 5G towers all over the world that will make our penises fall off? Wake up, sheeple!

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