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In April, Société Générale economist Albert Edwards released a scathing note saying he hadn’t seen anything like the current levels of corporate greed in his four decades working in finance. He said companies were using the war in Ukraine as an excuse to hike prices in search of profits.

“The end of Greedflation must surely come. Otherwise, we may be looking at the end of capitalism,” Edwards wrote. “This is a big issue for policymakers that simply cannot be ignored any longer.”

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 126 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Next thing we know it they'll be lying about shoplifting or something else that sends a little of they pain they're causing us back home.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The shoplifting lie was posted yesterday I believe. Both are repeated articles that have just constantly been found to be true, but nobody has the energy to even be mad because we’re so busy trying to survive.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Not really sure what the tenor is of your reply but I would just say they steal a lot from us (shrinkflation, price-fixing, straight up lying about amount of product in unit, etc), people steal some of that back. Sunrise, sunset

Edit: on the retail side, a lot of those businesses are abusing the social safety net to reduce the amount they pay and socialize the losses while bitching their privatized profits would be higher if it wasn't for all the socialized theft that was occuring on their watch!

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Don't forget that wage theft outstrips all other forms of theft combined

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And its basically only ever dealt with on the dime of the victim and only civilly where it vastly exceeds the dollar value threshold required for big boy criminal charges on the part of the non-person person (person/non-corporation)

[–] Instigate@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Australia is in the process of passing a law that criminalises wage theft - very much looking forward to our government taking actual theft seriously. I’m looking forward to seeing unscrupulous bosses and CEOs in handcuffs, even though I know it’s going to be extremely rare.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Its insane its not already the case. Good on them for actually attempting to stop fucking around

[–] SevFTW@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

straight up lying about amount of product in unit

Just saw an article this week that shoppers in Canada were purchasing things like cereal with tens of grams less than what they were paying for.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I’ve seen about four different versions of this over the last few years. It’s nothing new, much like the greedflation thing having been discussed for years.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 77 points 2 years ago

All our regulations are so eroded, our government bodies so toothless and captured, that these companies are just fucking around with people's lives because they can. There is no recourse. Burn your local chain store today.

[–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago

This has been public knowledge since the very first quarterly earnings call in the greedflation era.

[–] azqual@feddit.nl 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No surprise there, really. Those corporations were posting record high profits... In an environment of "real" high inflation those companies don't get to increase their profits and their margins like that. Yet most news publications lend then a microphone for them to spread their lies instead of calling their bullshit. It's not inflation, it's greed. Why would they want you to pay less instead of more? It's not like capitalism was invented yesterday. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

economist Albert Edwards released a scathing note saying he hadn’t seen anything like the current levels of corporate greed

An economist worth his salt should be considering. "Why didn't this happen earlier?" Instead of being "shocked".

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

We actually already know the answer to that. In a normal environment raising prices is something consumers are very sensitive to. But when there's already inflation consumers are very bad at gauging what the new price should be. The corporations know this and have for some time. They were just waiting for a good moment to raise their prices.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They absolutely do get to increase their profits and margins like that. They did, and they will again.

Welcome to c a p i t a l i s m

[–] tacotroubles@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But the trillion dollar company told me times were tough for them and their billionaire ceo. I should trust them, they know everything about me and have no reason to decieve me

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

"Times are tough" = everything from "1 week til collapse" to "might not meet our growth stretch targets, that trigger my massive bonus"

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh no, I'm so surprised. Such an unexpected turn of events. Flabbergasted I tell you.

Yea, this happens every single time there is any excuse to raise prices. My first time was when my country switched our currency from Kroon to Euro and everyone said that will not cause an increase in prices. About a year later everything was about 30% more expensive.

This is not new and nothing will be done to fix it would be my prediction from like the last 10 times this has happened.

[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Same in Portugal. A 100 escudo coin was actually quite similar to the 1 euro coin but it was worth half. In one year what costed 100 escudos was now 1 euro. A 100% price increase.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And so people say we gotta tighten our belts and work just a little harder. Like in the good old days. We don't want any handouts, do we? Do it for our country.

I literally saw someone quote JFKs "ask not what your country can do for you" yesterday, opposing a raise of social security payouts here in Germany. A raise that was necessitated by the galloping inflation which is hitting poor families the hardest. Coupled with an unwillingness of corporate management to adequately pay their workers, i.e. pay the very people who are making stock indices rise to record heights.

People are stupid. Mark my words, we will have a fascist government again soon. Because it's all the brown people's fault, so they say. And the queers and the trannies and the intellectuals, so they must all be purged.

Never again, we used to say here. Well, we're almost there.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I wish I lived in a country that raised social security payments to lift people out of poverty. Sadly, I live in the U.S. where, apparently, if you're poor, it's your fault.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If this surprises you, you’re an idiot.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@aussie.zone 16 points 2 years ago

Perhaps, although a little harsh. Most people just don't think that deeply about things.

The accepted narrative is that inflation happens when poor people get too much money.

Yes it's obvious that there's more going on if you think about it for a few moments, but no one does.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I guess one way it's surprising is that, it takes a degree of coordination for this to happen. I mean you have some major international event that can trigger international economic consequences like some degree of inflation and then some genius thinks that since the public have been forced to swallow price rises across the board because of this, what if we just raise our prices some more and it will be assumed it's for the same unavoidable cause. Okay, I get the scam, great. But, whether consumers believe the pretense or not and have sympathy or not, wouldn't stop them going elsewhere if someone else didn't come up with the same clever scheme or hasn't launched it yet, and still has higher, but not extra high prices. Or maybe they do all see a great caper and jack up the prices at the same time, eventually, for the same greedy reasons, those businesses would want to take the other's lunch if they could and would see the benefit of being at least just a little bit cheaper which is supposed to create a cycle that is the way capitalism supposedly works.

This doesn't happen when you see monopolies or near monopolies. Supermarkets in Australia are in particular being talked about for price gouging and there's an associated near duopoly between 2 dominant chains. In that context it's definitely not very surprising. I'd bet that this particularly recent example of price spikes without adequate explanation are associated particularly with sectors where there is very little competition. The article was pay walled so I can't tell if they're referring specifically to prices for groceries or economy wide problems.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When 6 corporations owns 90% of the market it dosen't require a great deal of coordination.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Exactly. The article is pay walled so I couldn't get too specific since I don't known it's scope but my suggestion here is that it's not complete naïveté not to have automatically assumed the war in Ukraine would lead to both actual inflationary pressure as well as cover for just plain old price gouging because that price gouging behavior on its own doesn't make good business sense even hard nosed and cynically motivated, it requires both greed and concentrated ownership in cartels. Presumably we should see this greedflation happening unevenly in particular sectors where cartels or cartel like conditions have flourished.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Then that should lower the bar to prove collusion

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

We know, just goes to show how out of control these capitalist pigs truly are

[–] pudcollar@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago
[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

No, but workers getting a $2 raise because unemployment rate is not high enough is the problem. /s

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

I thought having a society was to avoid this kind of mad max landscape of unchecked greed. Evidently capitalism gets a pass to ruin even that idea.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Better use the Fed to reduce worker leverage again in response to this new information, amirite?

This is a class ~~war~~ occupation, whether you choose to fight your oppressors or love them as so many peasants are successfully propagandized from birth to do.

[–] pensivepangolin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

All those moral, humane, compassionate corporations lied to me for profit?

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

Many companies are lying, period

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Now that there’s a study that proves what we all already knew, there’s going to be real change

[–] jackoneill@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together has known this for a while. who is this article for? can we fucking revolt yet guys?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I mean yea, we can also eat the rich

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago
[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Grocery prices at ALDI have barely budged over this whole shitshow.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Today on: No shit sherlock.. 🙄

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

No shit?? Wow..let me... WOW !!!??

Who even knew?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Tax the billionaires

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A joint study by think tanks IPPR and Common Wealth found profiteering by some of the world’s biggest companies forced prices up significantly higher than costs during 2022.

Analysts have typically laid the blame on supply-chain bottlenecks created by excess demand during the COVID-19 pandemic and exacerbated by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Profits for companies in some of the world’s largest economies rose by 30% between 2019 and 2022, significantly outpacing inflation, according to the group’s research of 1,350 firms across the U.S., the U.K., Europe, Brazil, and South Africa.

The biggest perpetrators were energy companies like Shell, Exxon Mobil, and Chevron, which were able to enjoy massive profits last year as demand moved away from Russian oil and gas.

In April, Société Générale economist Albert Edwards released a scathing note saying he hadn’t seen anything like the current levels of corporate greed in his four decades working in finance.

In November, Walmart CEO Doug McMillon suggested the era of high inflation in the U.S. was over, and shoppers may soon begin to experience a contraction in prices—known as “deflation”—in company stores.


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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

And in a related story, a new scientific breakthrough has discovered that the sky is made of air.