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Kanye antisemitism

I sleep

Ukraine neo nazis

I give several billion dollars

people show solidarity with Palestinians as they are being genocided by Israel

REAL ANTISEMITISM?!?!?!

People will forgive a lot that doesnt personally affect them in exchange for treats.

Wild how he still has a career, I'll say that much, he literally praised Hitler and only lost one partnership.

Something I've been thinking a lot about recently myself, but you have to understand Kanye is not just another hugely popular artist but possibly the most influential hip-hop artist of the past 20 years, and I've seen some (myself included) rank him as one of the greatest hip-hop producers of all time, up there with the likes of Pete Rock, Preemo and J Dilla.

You also have to understand hip-hop and where Kanye is coming from. Listen to pretty much any hip-hop song from the 90s (esp. from NYC) and it'll be littered with five percenter slang, which itself comes out of the NOI. I mean the five percenters were there from the start, at the Kool Herc parties. Both groups are...not the best when it comes to Jews. This is how you get Chuck D praising Farrakhan in multiple songs, Ice Cube going on antisemitic rants on twitter, and Jay-Z having a ton of really sus lines about Jews in a bunch of songs, just to name a few things off the top of my head. The Five percenter slang was so intertwined with hip-hop in the 90s that people were unknowingly using the slang w/o being five percent themselves. You probably know some terms yourself (cypher, word is bond, droppin science). Kanye's not a five-percenter (he's very serious about his christianity), but he started his career in the mid-90s when this stuff was unavoidable. He also jumpstarted his career with rocafella - I don't think Jay-z is five percent (though he's worn a five percenter chain, though I think that's more a nod to the culture than anything), but I know Beanie Sigel is some type of muslim, not sure about Memphis Bleek though I know Sean Price (his cousin) was definitely on some five percent shit, Freeway was five percent I think? - I'm not gonna analyze everyone in the rocafella camp, my point is five percent stuff was extremely prevalent in hip-hop in the era Kanye was coming up, and although its influence sorta started to die as Kanye's career progressed, he was undoubtedly exposed to the five percent stuff and therefore a lot of antisemitism.

Another way antisemitism found its way into hip-hop is the fact that it was created by Black communities in NYC - where there were some very real tensions between Black and Jewish communities, esp. in Brooklyn.

So I hope this doesn't come off as excusing Kanye, but I think it's important to note that Kanye's antisemitism can't be explained away by saying "Kanye's an idiot" or "Kanye's an asshole" because it does come from somewhere as hip-hop has had an antisemitism problem for a long time, and Kanye is an extension of that. Kanye's antisemitism is notable though because instead of staying as just basic hip-hop antisemitism, it got mixed with and amplified by the new right who want to parade Kanye around as a sort of darling of the right. So you have Kanye going on Alex Jones and meeting with Nick Fuentes - parading around the token Black man to support their views, not new on the right.

So anyway, the reason he hasn't been canceled is probably some combination of 1) a lot of his fans are extremely apolitical (or worse, 4chan nazis - MBDTF, Yeezus and TLOP are loved by /mu/), 2) antisemitism was a part of hip-hop before Kanye, and a lot of old heads really do have extremely sus opinions on the Jews that make Kanye's beliefs...not that notable (what's notable is Kanye's antisemitism being lifted out of the hip-hop landscape and mixed up with the Nick Fuentes/Alex Jones/neo-nazi right), and 3) it's extremely difficult to extricate Kanye from the modern day hip-hop landscape - as I say above, his impact cannot be understated. He not only fundamentally changed the trajectory of hip-hop, but, in terms of production, he's also one of the best to ever do it.

He was a super mainstream musician for almost 2 decades before his chud transformation, the more likely reason is that his audience is so broad it includes people who aren't conscientious enough to care. If he started getting into nazi shit much earlier (like the mid 2000s, when he already had big hits but his style of hip hop was still kind of "alternative" compared to the rest of the industry) that might have ended his career.

It's only anti - semetic when you say that we shouldn't bomb Gaza.

What's there to talk about? Rich people don't suffer consequences.

I think the general public thinks of Kanye as a bizarre performance artist who has severe mental illnesses. They heard Kanye saying outrageously racist things and simply nodded and said "Yep, that's old wacky Kanye up to his shenanigans again"

People don't give a shit about anti semitism.

They just care about the "antisemitism" of their opponents when they do things like call for not bombing hospitals

Also he hasn't made any good music in a while

Americans were never really anti-nazi, there are photos of marches in support of Germany before Pearl Harbor. Even worse, we still live amongst millions of people sympathetic to fascist movements. Why would fascists cancel Kanye?

How do you cancel a celebrity that gives no fucks, has a shitton of money, and built their public presence in an apolitical genre of pop hip-hop? Hope that your X-comment (formerly tweet) changes the mind of millions of people who don't really give a shit about anything outside the sphere of themselves? Sending mean X-comments (formerly tweets) to kanye's X account (formerly twitter) mailbox?

Unless you got a way to personally contact the dude and can d20 nat20 persuade him to knock that shit off, you might as well just shrug and say "that's the way it is" and move on to find something more productive to do with the time you got in this life. Maybe go take a nice walk, donate to some cause you like if you're able, put ketchup packets under those little bumper things under the toilet seat in your bosses personal toilet, spend an hour after eating a meal and read something you've been putting off, make a post on your favorite website wondering why some dipshit celeb with nazi fantasies is still openly bumbling around and have some loser reply to your post with an insufferable long comment that reads like they're the kind of person that gets a feeling of living high on the hog from making grandiose run-on sentences that never really seem to end.

It just means his remaining fans are Nazi sympathizers, and deserve to be called out and treated as such in public.

What would he get cancelled for? It's not like he criticized israel or said anything in support of Palestinians.

Americans not really hating Hitler/Nazis/anti-semitism that much?

The music is just that good

But even then going from The superstar married to Kim Kardashian to C list celebrity is borderline cancellation

Its one part hard to take Kanye seriously and one part people are idiots when it comes to celebrities.

Kanye was never poor and lived in China at some point. He father was a black panther but Kanye himself never grew up underprivileged.

Alex Jones is back too, just unbanned from X

Fourth Reich moment

It's because nobody ever took him seriously in the first place

Every day I'm more and more vindicated for thinking his albums are mid.

Most Kanye songs are great but the you hear Kanye and it becomes below average.

Rich person + mania = crazy fascist shit. Cancelling Kanye without also cancelling every rich person would be ableist.

His clothes aren’t popular, his new songs aren’t popular.

He effectively removed himself from mainstream going forward.

Now if he puts out new songs.. that will be where it matters.

As a lot of “canceled” artists in the past weren’t hugely popular or relevant at the time they got found out.

He's got tons of bangers

bc this country doesn't take Black people seriously in electoral terms as politicos unless they do west wing shit (which is true of most anybody that isnt a wasp or with similar dynastic ties and such like rfkjr) and also antisemitism is eternally en vogue amongst the west