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[–] Jeeve65@ttrpg.network 65 points 2 years ago

7/16" - 10ct = 10mm

[–] cryptosporidium140@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

11.1125 mm - 1.35 mm = 9.7625 mm

Sorry, I couldn't resist

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago

Now do it with a nickel

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Fractional inches can suck my nuts.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Are they really that small?

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, honestly I'm usually so tired of the imperial VS metric debate (I know metric is better and I wish the US used it, it's just a low priority), but drill bit sizes are so stupid.

"Yeah gimme that 15/64ths bit" unhinged behavior.

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[–] Crow@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (9 children)

The damn imperial system and its weird 1/16 measurements. Why do you people hate 10 step counting?

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You actually can't be mad about this one. This is effectively binary which you use all the time without knowing it. And even worse, proper SI notation has jacked up binary hardcore.

1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32... You won't find a 1/12 or some other number.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Maybe that's why I couldn't tell if a gigabyte has 1000 megabytes or 1024. People keep telling me one or the other. Others keep telling me that there's 1024 mebibytes in 1 gibibyte, but those names absolutely suck.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Mega is 10^6 , Mebi is 2^20 aka 1024^2 bytes

Edit:

The confusion comes from the fact that Microsoft in Windows calls 1024 bytes a kilobyte, which makes no sense whatsoever, since that word has a meaning and that ain't it.

When MS first launched MS-DOS maybe made sense (maybe), but right now it's only creating confusion. Calling kilobyte a kibibyte is around a 2% error, but with terabyte it's more than 9%, which is a pretty big deal when you buy a 1TB disk and only shows up as 900 and something GB

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The confusion comes from the fact that Microsoft in Windows calls 1024 bytes a kilobyte

And storage... and networking... This isn't actually a MS spawned problem, and it existed in media before MS put their hands in it. But it is probably fair to say that MS emboldened storage and networking companies to not change their stance. It doesn't help that it's in their benefit as they're providing actually less product because of the confusion.

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[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

10 isn't the best base and I'm sick of pretending it is.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Depends for what. Still better than random scales like 3, 12, 1760 and units that don't mean anything like hundredweight, which isn't even one hundred anything, unless it is because you live in another part of the world where the same word means a totally different thing.

Fancy a pint?

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[–] DJKayDawg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I would pick base 12. Which would you prefer?

[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Base 12 crew represent.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

base 60 Babylonian gang where you at

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[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago
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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because a lot of imperial measurements revolved around being able to be divided by 4, and occasionally 3 at times.

For instance the cooking unit of measurments are in 4's or base 2 in a way (e.g 1 gallon = 4 quarts = 8 pints = 16 cups = 128 ounces)

We still see 4s or 3s irl regardless of measurement system. Doughnuts are often prepared in dozens and virtually never in 10s. Do we walk around claiming why bakers hate 10 step counting?

Time is the example of something designed around 3/4 and didn't change. 60 is divisiable by both 4 (15) and 3 (20) and is not base 10, but people can accept that.

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[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Using 12 and 16 makes for easier maths (pre-calculators). It's easier to divide and get an integer. With easy access to calculators and highly precise measurements (especially digital systems) metric makes more sense and is easier to interpret quickly.

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[–] Marzanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Physics is also important. Coins are usually made of softer metal so a wrench can crush it if a bolt is too tight.

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Why *metric is important

Ten mil spanner is fuckin ten mil spanner and you have three in your toolbox and only someone who was starved of oxygen at birth uses imperial spanners wtf is this 🥲

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

10mm is also .40'.

...Which I know because 10mm auto is the parent cartridge of .40S&W, which was just cut down to be shorter, but still uses the same projectiles.

[–] SkyeHarith@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can I be that person???

AkShUaLlY An inch is not PrEcIsElY 2.5 cm but is /defined/ to be 2.54 ish cm so 0.4” is in ReAlItY 10.6 mm.

Ok im sorry. I’ll show myself out.

[–] ironlegnebula@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

6% off is fine with me t. engineer

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[–] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

.40 short & wimpy

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I know this cause guns. How imperial of you.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No one going to mention that it's a Philips head screw as well? So not only could they have used a metric wrench but also a screwdriver.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

As the owner of an older Japanese motorcycle: you're better off with a wrench.

You're probably just going to strip it with a screw driver, and that's assuming it's actually Philips and not JIS.

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[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

This meme is old as hell

[–] s_s@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago

Laughs in pliers wrench

[–] norgur@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maths is important to get what the frick a 7/16 inch unit is supposed to be and how to calculate just about anything with it.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Maths may be important, but figuring out what's bigger, 7/16 vs 3/8, is a stupid fucking system when metric exists.

Centimeters/millimeters: "6 is bigger than 5 is bigger than 4"

Inches: "I don't fuckin know what's bigger, 5/16 or 3/8? How about 7/32? Fuck you, I'm just making it all up."

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Even more ridiculous is that they could have just made everything one fraction. Like 1/10 then 2/10 then 3/10. This crap is over complicated by it's own rules.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What if you need to represent something between 1/10th and 2/10ths without misrepresenting your precision?

Fractional measurements are way better for indicating precision than decimal. With decimal precision can only be increased or decreased by a power of 10, whereas fractional can be any level of precision - just represent the precision in the denominator.

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[–] norgur@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

What's that in hogs hair lengths?

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[–] curiousPJ@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Any aerospace mechanics have any comments on this matter?

[–] paholg@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

I'm not an aerospace mechanic, but I do have some insight.

The formula in the image is incorrect. It depicts 7/16" - 10 cents = 10 mm, not plus. Notice that 7/16" indicates the gap in the wrench, and the dime makes that gap smaller.

Now that that is out of the way, it seems that a dime is 1.35 mm (I love that American currency is specified in metric). So, 7/16" - 10 cents = 9.7625 mm. So, pretty damn close to 10 mm.

[–] grepe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wait... 20h old and nobody picked up un the fact that the thing on the picture is actually screw and you'd need a screwdriver for that?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 years ago

It has a hex shape, you can use both.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Like I'm going two weld two dimes into a cross for the screw slot when I have a wrench already.

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

A hex cap screw

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dynamic typing cannot work.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

This is duck typing though. Since it works like a 10mm wrench.

The only problem is that now both the dime and 7/16 likely to vanish when next needed.

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