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[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

My wife and I bought a house with two GIANT trees in the backyard. At least sixty feet tall, four feet across. They were probably planted when the house was built in '72.

One month in, one of them dies. It cost $2,700 to remove it and leave the stump.

Then in March this year the OTHER ONE FUCKING DIES TOO. We went ahead and had the stumps ground this time. $4,400.

I spent $7,100 to have a backyard with 0 trees and 2 mounds where I would rather have trees. Fucking NOTHING to show for all that money. Those trees were gorgeous. I was pretty devastated when we had to have the second one cut down.

Apart from the trees, we have had:

  • A 50 year old toilet flush valve break ($35 plus the time it took me to repair the toilet because I do not want to figure out how to get rid of an old toilet);
  • The garbage disposal fail ($300 for a new disposal; $450 for the plumber because I got in over my head);
  • The gas valve on the heater break ($840 plus a weekend of it being 45° in my house before anyone in town could come with the part)
  • A garage door that hangs up as it closes. I'm gonna ignore that one for as long as I can and just pull it down while it closes for now. Maybe I'll get the hardware to convert it to a manual door while I'm young enough to pull it up and down.

I'd still rather own, but man, the cons go hard.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Home ownership is for people who DIY.

I've fixed enough things myself to realise that most things are broken because the previous owners also fixed it themselves.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Me starting a project “What kind of alcoholic simpleton set up THIS CONTRAPTION?!? This is why we need professionals”

Also me, finishing a project “I’m done fiddling with this godforsaken piping. That’s good enough, leave it for the next person”

And thus the cycle continues anew

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

My rule is that it goes back less fucked than it came out

Sometimes it's not by much, but it still happens

Which is why I'm pissed my FIL redid my kitchen light switch without me there: it came out broken, went in the way he likes, and now half my kitchen doesn't work and I cant figure out the fucking arcane bullshit the original guy did to fix it

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

This is why I jumped at the chance to buy my parents' old house when they moved out. Not only were they giving me a good deal, but I knew how my dad took care of the place and that I wasn't buying a fire hazard or worse.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 2 years ago

I weep for whoever bought my parents old house. My dad left so much half-assed shit that's going to break again for them to find. Hell he's already done a number on their new house and that's just what I can see walking through. I'm probably going to inherit that one...

[–] Risk@feddit.uk 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The worst past of renting is the Landlord. The worst part of owning is being the Landlord.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I like not having to wait for the landlord to get off their ass.

[–] Risk@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago

Man, I'm still waiting for mine...

If only I wasn't my landlord...

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The garbage disposal fail ($300 for a new disposal; $450 for the plumber because I got in over my head);

This seems a little outrageous. Garbage disposals are about $150 new, and I have no plumbing experience and can swap one out in less than 15 minutes. Unless you seriously damaged some pipes or the plumber was getting double time I have no idea why it would cost that much.

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I did fuck up the plumbing. Like I said, got in over my head. All the old pipes were cemented in and the disposal didn't match up to the existing plumbing. I should have thrown in the towel sooner, but "too late" was when I, the dumbass with a sawzall, chose to admit defeat. He was here a solid 2 hours cleaning up my mess. I can fix most stuff, but sometimes, it just goes the wrong amount of sideways.

As for the disposal, if we were gonna replace it, we were gonna get a GOOD one. It's a 1 horse and it's probably overkill, but I'd rather spend the extra on a higher quality machine. We both spent way too much time living with shit tier appliances in cheap apartments.

Fortunately, the plumber was a total bro and replaced all the cemented fittings with compression fittings. So if the next one doesn't perfectly fit, it'll be as simple as loosening everything up and adjusting it all.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Our walk in shower on the 2nd floor leaked to the first due to the membrane being compromised. Found out there is no easy fix and had to completely redo the shower. It was 9k. T_T

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Sucks about the trees, but your other repairs you’ve made don’t seem too bad. It could’ve been worse… trees could’ve been neglected and fallen on your property.

[–] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

A 60ft tall 4ft wide tree costs $4k to remove in your neck of the woods? In my area, it costs that much to remove a tree a third of that size and I shopped around and got multiple quotes too 😣

[–] Bluerendar@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I followed some arborist's ch on YT for a while and man, people really butcher trees when they don't know what they're doing. It's quite sad given how much a tree affects a property's price, I feel bad that you effectively got ripped off like that. I don't think many appraisers would know their shit either so that sorta thing is just being SoL I guess...

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm pretty sure the horrendous drought we had last couple years and the 105-110 degree summers did them in.

We're the second owners so the lady who lived here before us had to have loved those trees. She and her husband built this place and raised their kids here. She continued to live here until he died. She seemed genuinely elated to be selling to another young couple looking to build a family instead of some corpo or landlord or flipper. Nice lady.

I don't think anyone caught that first tree was probably dying at closing. Oh well. It sucks but what're you gonna do? As for the second one, the last few summers have been brutally hot and dry. We didn't do anything to the trees. We did cut back on watering the lawn because of the drought. I think the poor old thing just couldn't take it anymore.

We're in Oklahoma, and the Eastern Redbud is our state tree. One of the neighbors has one, and when it starts seeding again, I'm going to ask if I can collect some seed pods so we can try to get a few going. They're really hardy here and a local tree should produce seeds that are best adapted to the local climate. I miss those two trees, but for those couple weeks a year, when the redbuds are in bloom, I think the beauty of that will be an acceptable consolation.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know if it's because prices are different where you live, but around here, you totally got hosed on the trees. Admittedly, we didn't get the stumps removed, but we've had multiple very large oak trees cut down (they predate the house by many years and the house was built in the 1980s) and they cost around $1000 each time.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

There's a lot of variables, not the least of which being the specific people you hire, how busy it is in your area at that time for them, and the specific site (can they access easily with their equipment, are there easily damaged buildings nearby, etc.).

The last time my parents had tree work done, my dad was getting estimates in the range of $2,500-4,000 per tree, for a total of 4 trees.

Then one guy came out, took a look, and says, "$1,500."

My dad is thinking that's the best price he's likely to get, but still wants to see if the guy has any wiggle room, so he says something like, "Is there anything you can do on the price if I want to get all four done at once?"

And the guy just says something like, "I was planning on doing all four at once. If I gotta come back a second day, it'll cost a bit more. Maybe $1,800 in total for the four of em. But I'll only need one day as long as I can get here early and put a full day in."

When my dad realized the price was for the entire job, he basically just said, "How soon can you do it?"

[–] Cheesus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Be glad you don't live in a high cost of living area, my first thought was envy of how cheap that was for you.

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[–] KnowledgeableNip@leminal.space 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The trick is to bring in whatever busted piece you have and find the exact match. Nobody's gonna think you're shoplifting rusted garbage and usually you can knock out your purchase in just one trip.

If your project/fix is too complicated to bring in the busted piece, may God have mercy on your soul.

[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

too complicated to bring in the busted piece

time to get good at projecting your project visually on the ceiling like beth harmon in the queen's gambit.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

I take pictures on my phone and draw measurements on them. That's been pretty helpful for me.

[–] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

Fire sprinkler installers crying

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's always the plumbing that makes for the late night trips too. Missing a piece of wood or something electrical, and it's fine. You can fix it tomorrow. But busted a pipe and have water cut off to the house until it's fixed? That's when you make a late night run to wherever is still open.

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

there is a certain demographic of fellow travelers that is at home depot because they just cant stand being home

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a European:

Struggle to find a craftsman to do any small work.

Work really needs to get done.

Go online, find how it is done.

Go to some hardware store and buy everything and a couple of extras, just for good measure.

Start the work.

Break or destroy whatever the cause of the problem.

Realize the original work was already badly done, is too old to be safe or was half assed together by some lazy person.

Go back online, find modern solution.

Go back to store, buy extra materials.

Break things even more.

Replace bad original work with modern solution, creating in the meanwhile a solution to conected bad work you can't solve to the work you've done.

It works and it is safe.

Eventually, one of the crafts worker calls back.

Sees the work you have done: "Why did you bother doing all of that? You spent too much money."

Describes shoddy solution, like what was before the damage you solved by yourself.

"Fuck my luck."

End note: I faced this when fixing a sewers issue and a renewal of an electrical circuit.

[–] Phoonzang@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Homeowners insurance: "Since you don't have some certificate or whatever, your proper solution is something we won't cover. If you want it covered, get someone with a certificate to do a hackjob."

At least in Germany, you're not allowed to touch anything "important" like water, electric, plumbing, or gas. Even if you would do a much better job, quicker, and cheaper, than any contractor who'd be allowed to do that work. Every single contractor I hired remodeling our house did something which was clearly not up to code (DIN or EN), and almost every time they put up a fight explaining it away, even when I read them the exact wording of the norm. "Well, if I'd do it that way, I would never finish work!" "This would be too much work, nobody does it that way" "I am always doing it this way and never had any complaints"

Discussion was always over when I asked whether I should get an inspector to settle it. They begrudgingly fixed the issue, and without fail tried to bill me for it (additionally).

I am so done with contractors, those are the original gatekeepers.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

It varies by the locality, but the municipal inspectors in the US often let you get away with doing your own electrical and plumbing. They come down harder on gas, though. For a pretty sensible reason. If you mess up electrical or plumbing, you tend to only fuck yourself. If you mess up gas, you tend to fuck your neighbors, too.

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[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is so accurate. I absolutely hate that it's super hard to find qualified craftsmen nowadays. And worse, sometimes they're clearly unqualified AND don't speak my language, so communication is super frustrating.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

I can find plenty of craftspeople. But usually they will only take specific jobs, with specific outcomes.

I have a situation where I have to have a bathroom completely demolished and plumbing and waste water lines redone.

It's a simple deal and a quick work yet nobody will take it because there are special demands that need to be met (it involves insurances) like ripping old water lines completely from the wall and run new tubes.

But "ripping out the old is too much work and puttin new pipes into the wall is too conplex: leave the old ones as is and put the new ones outside the wall".

Nope. Old out, new in. Everything through conduits, with joints and safety valves inside inspection bixes. And there they go running.

[–] EvilTwin@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No project is complete without at least two trips to the hardware store.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also have to give it some blood. Nothing I do ever goes together right until I've injured myself somehow doing it.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My wife and I have agreed to try to keep things to one emergency room visit per project.

The last one being when I was pulling up tack strip to replace carpet that was right along a transition to the kitchen tile. Crowbar caught a chunk of ceramic and gashed my head pretty bad. Missed my eye by a few centimeters. Wear a face shield for that shit.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was almost finished redoing a floor when one of the planks kicked back in the table saw and hit me in the arm. I didn't think anything of it, and then realized the threshold I bought wouldn't work.

So there I was, in Home Depot at 8:58pm, walking back to the flooring section when I realize that I've been dripping blood on the floor from a cut in my arm the entire time.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Pain is your body's way of staying stop. Doing your own carpentry tends to override this response 🤣

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I’m in both of these pictures.

[–] spiffy_spaceman@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Going to home depot at 9p to get one more of a simple washer or nail that you could have gotten on any of the 3 previous trips that day to finish fixing whatever broke in the middle of the night is what I call the adult walk of shame

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Going back 3 fucking times for the right part or to buy a tool you know you already own but you can't find right now is a whole level of hell that we sometimes pay people thousands of dollars to help us avoid

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

to buy a tool you know you already own but you can’t find right now

That's how I find the first tool.

It's like a sacrifice of my time and money to the tool gods to show how invested I am in dealing with this problem on my own. They reward me with giving me back my old "lost" tool.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look, I don't need to be stockpiling tools for every occasion. There's no reason for me to buy that drill or saw for the one project I need it for.

So I'll just pay the people who have all that stuff already.

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know that you can use drills and saws more than once, and for more than one kind of thing, right? I've used the same drill for plumbing, electrical, woodworking, and probably 100 other projects at this point. A basic mechanics set and a basic combo kit of power tools from any hardware store will allow you to do 90% of projects around your house, and will take up about as much space as a medium moving box.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mercifully for us, there's a Menards right outside our subdivision. A perfect location when you're a homeowner.

[–] billygoat@catata.fish 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Coming from out west, Menards was absolutely next level for doing house projects.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] saltnotsugar@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Let me fix this small issue right quick…oh…oh dear.

[–] CrowAirbrush@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

That's me, but with my 3d printer.

[–] V0uges@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago

Ah, that Saturday evening at our old house when we came back from the movies at 23h, brushed our teeth and the the faucet in the master bathroom broke and water kept running. Oh, the great many Sundays we spent at Leroy Merlin and at furniture stores to find a cabinet to put under the new sink after we had to redo the whole plumbing.

And the previous owners of our current house had a thing for shitty electrical wiring. They did a lot of stupid things and we keep fixing their mess as we find them. There’s a special place in hell for those DIYers.

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